"Alternatives" for the small business owner

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Just received a sales call from IBM that basically ended in a..."yeah, no point in talking to you because you can't afford the minimum $4,000-$8,000 / month to subscribe to our service".  To this sales persons credit..he was trying to be as diplomatic and nice about it...though short as possible.  I'm sure he's had to deal with angry users of this service left hung out to dry.  

As a small business owner and capitalist, I say kudos to anyone who builds a service model and then sells it to someone for a profit.  But in my humble opinion, the fact that there is literally no option for a small to medium sized business that has actually spent time and money writing in-house software to use this service..is immoral of the founders of this "company" and certainly immoral for the soulless IBM, which since the 90's has basically done nothing but sustain itself through the acquisition of things they for some reason cannot create on their own accord. 

As I understand it, many personal weather stations and a lot of community effort went into providing this service with the raw material and data needed to run it.  And so my main reason for calling out the sellouts...literally...of this service is not that you made a buck...but that you obviously at no point during the acquisition process tried to protect the interests of the community that is not in the business of selling data, but using it for their day to day business needs.  And why that is so immoral...is because it is in the interests of a community based service that you even got the to the point where anyone gave you their time and data to build a network.  

You could have insisted a reasonable package be made available to a small business owner, but instead you've literally nuked thousands of businesses that now will be left scrambling to find an alternative.  We would have been happy to pay even up to a couple hundred bucks for the API service if we knew we could help you sustain your costs, turn a  profit and keep the service running.  But this was a complete case of opportunism and lack of respect for the community.  

Enjoy your yachts. 
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This is what I got today from my "rep"...

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Have you tried the free data from the weather service api
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Carl Popolo

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I'm making the switch to Dark Sky. Does what I need. 1000 calls per day are free. $1 for each 10k calls per day.
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Ca is sueing because they claim twc/ibm is selling the gps tracking data from the app. Now we know where the repomen get the gps
tracking info from. No one is going to use wu after this. Install wu app and the repoman will track your car great ideal ibm. Now you know how the repoman found you.
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Paul Madsen

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Wow, just wow. So many people built and supported WU as a labor of love, and IBM walks in and says, "Lets eat them." All IBM is interested in is exploiting other people's hard work. Their pricing is beyond obscene, especially considering there are plenty of other weather API providers. (darksky.net is really nice) WU has been running like trash ever since TWC/IBM took it over, so I've been thinking about abandoning it anyway, but this is the last nail in the coffin. RIP Weather Underground.
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We're glad to host a place for open discussion about the WU API transition.
We'd like to remind our PWS owners/contributors:
  • Your past data will always be available to you for viewing and download in a web browser on wunderground.com, just like it always has.
  • If you are in the small minority of people who use the WU API and a corresponding WU API key to obtain data in .json format, here's what's happening:
  1. We'll open a registration page for you to get a new API key to get your data in .json format
  2. You'll sign up and get a new API key for the new API
  3. Once the registration page is open, we'll keep the old API and your old API key active for 2 weeks to allow transition time to your new key
We'll announce in the forum when the registration page opens.
Or, email victoria.gardner@ibm.com to receive an email notification once it's ready.
The new API will provide access to:
  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute
The documentation for the new API is available here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

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Quickbooks Online (QBO) have a deal for as little as $7 AUD per month for their end of financial year sale. This is a life time subscription price. To access the prices you have to go through an accountant.