End of Service for the Weather Underground API

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We’re contacting you today to tell you about some upcoming changes to the Weather Underground (WU) API and what these changes mean for you.

The WU API has been around since 2010 to help you develop apps and websites as well as manage your Personal Weather Station data.  During that time, we’ve watched you build amazing products and visualize weather data with creativity and purpose.

Over the years, our infrastructure has struggled to keep up with the growing numbers of users coming to us for API data. We realized we needed to make changes to ensure the highest level of quality, performance and uptime for our API users.

As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to retire the Weather Underground API. The Weather Company, which acquired WU back in 2012, offers a powerful suite of enterprise-grade APIs that might be better suited to meet your scale and performance needs while offering a broader range of weather data. You can see these products here.

Here’s what you need to know going forward:

  • Your subscriptions, and therefore access, will continue to work through 12/31/2018.

  • If you are a paying WU API customer, you will receive a call from a representative from The Weather Company, and IBM business, to discuss transition options to other API services. If you’d like to have these conversations sooner, contact us.

  • If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.

  • The WU Forum will continue to be the best place to connect, keep you informed, share your feedback and get your questions answered as we go through this process.


We are grateful for your commitment to Weather Underground and appreciate your understanding and support as we work through this process. These changes will allow us to continually improve our services and develop new features to keep WU a thriving place for you for many years to come.

Thanks for being part of the community.

Sincerely,

The WU Team
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"If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized."

Personally I am not worried about getting history of my data I send to you. it is written to SQL on my site as well.

I think most PWS users that run a site would like to know if you could confirm there will be a forecast offered via API to PWS Owners or not?
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Sorry you feel that way, Kirk.  All the best in your future endeavors.

--Victoria
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Victoria it looks like you are part of the problem
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Thanks, Pete.  I'll keep that in mind.

--Victoria
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Hi, my subscription changeover worked fine. I just moved to South Carolina. My station is KSCLONGS15. The coordinates are correct. I’m at about 30 feet in elevation. My WS-1200 shows the correct pressure. Wonderground and the PWS app show pressure almost 0.50” higher. When I go to wunderground and find my station settings it shows my elevation of over -107000! I’ve emailed twice under customer support and no one answers back. Help please
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Wow!  That's some trick, negative elevation.  I'll get the report in now.

It's worth noting that the elevation seems to have been incorrect for some time.  I see the same incorrect elevation in the old WU record as well.  

--Victoria
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Yes, we expect to have basic forecast data included in the API offering for PWS owners.  Can you let us know what your needs are for forecasts?  We want to focus strongly on the needs of PWS owners for this new API.
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Difficult decisions sometimes have to be made.  Thank you for your past involvement, Jeremy.  If you haven't found them yet, instructions for PWS uploaders to get a new key can be found in the first response to this post:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/end-of-feb-wu-api-update

Victoria Gardner
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As a PWS data provider, I find the new API unsatisfactory as the temperature and wind speeds are lacking precision with whole numbers only.  I need more precision for calculating accurate wind chill temperatures.  Can you please consider adding 1 or 2 decimal places.
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I'm sorry you're not finding the API suitable.

As I've noted elsewhere, development is in progress for enabling precision on some values.  We hope that it will be finished by the end of April.

Victoria Gardner
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OK the forecast API at http://api.wunderground.com/api/{apikey}/conditions/q/CA/San_Francisco.json went south on 25-March. What URL should I query to pick up forecasts that are generated using MY data and that of fellow PWS owners who continue to upload?
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Rich, first you need to get a new API key, assuming you are uploading data.  Log in to wunderground.com and navigate to Member Settings => API Keys and generate your key.

Then look at the documentation here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit
Specifically, you'll want the 5-day forecast API:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RY44O8ujbIA_tjlC4vYKHKzwSwEmNxuGw5sEJ9dYjG4/edit

There are five different formats in which you can request a forecast, so you will want to see which is best for your purposes.

If you have any trouble, please let me know.

Victoria Gardner
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Hello. I work for a Fortune 100 company and we are users of the Weather Underground API. Recently, the free API stopped working and we are interested in purchasing an API key.  I have filled out the Contact form twice and tried calling your sales office. After 2 weeks, I have yet to receive a response. I would like to know how to resolve this issue as this is impacting our production applications.
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Terry, all I can do is offer to help.  If you want me to have a tech look into a station that's not loading, I can and will.  But you're not providing me with anything I can use to address the issues you're concerned about.  I have personally gone through months of problems on this forum, and asked users if the issues were resolved.  All the uploading issues I know about are from software not making appropriate upload calls.  Dozens and dozens of people have seen my email address here and emailed me directly with problems, which have been or are being addressed.  Just because it's not visible on the forum doesn't mean nothing is happening.

I understand you are disappointed in the way things have changed.  I get it -- I started using WU in the late 90s when I was at the University of Michigan.  But it is a business.  

I look people in the eye who are doing what they can to keep that spark of WU alive.  They are not that cartoon character of the evil, cigar-smoking businessman that you may be imagining.  They genuinely care about the PWS owners; they care about weather data.  

If you want to give me some specific issue, great.  Otherwise, there is nothing I can do but continue to wish you well.

Victoria Gardner
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Victoria,

Are individual weather station owners important to WU's business?   What percentage of data come from donated data?   What percentage of data collection is paid for by WU?
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Tom, I'm not going to get into debating the whole business model.  I don't have access to the business's bottom line.  Nor do I spend much time thinking about it.  I spend all my time working with individuals on individual issues, solving problems.  

Victoria
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Edit:

Nevermind, It's on your site:

U.S. current conditions data comes from 180,000+ weather stations across the country including:

  • Almost 2,000 Automated Surface Observation System (ASOS) stations located at airports throughout the country. These are maintained by the Federal Aviation Administration and observations are updated hourly, or more frequently when adverse weather affecting aviation occurs (low visibility, precipitation, etc).
  • Over 250,000 Personal Weather Stations (PWS's) that are part of Weather Underground's ever-expanding PWS network. Stations are put through strict quality controls and observations are updated as often as every 2.5 seconds.
  • Over 26,000 weather stations that are part of the Meteorological Assimilation Data Ingest System (MADIS) which is managed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). For further information, see https://madis.ncep.noaa.gov/.
So most of your data comes from either data generated by the fed or donated from PWS's.

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fucking scumbags
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We are a private school running a few PiClocks for weather and forecast data.  We would like to set up more PiClocks in the future but without weather data, it's kinda a dead project.  Will there be any API offerings for education?
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dont count on it
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Hi Tim
currently I pay a monthly amount (20$ US), the stratus-drizzle plan,for a api key to get weather data. What happens after the end of     12/31/2018 ?                                       
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Hi Brian, 
Someone will reach out to you shortly to review your options,  We are asking customers to move to our API offerings through the weather channel.  These APIs are supported by a much larger team and are much better suited for using in production systems.  The downside is they tend to be more expensive.
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Okay, Nelio, I'm not sure I understand completely.  Please forgive me while I try to clarify.

If you are a current PWS (personal weather station) user/key holder, you will continue to have complete, uninterrupted access to your data as well as a limited range of additional data, such as short-term forecast, through the Weather Underground API as well as through the Wunderground web site.  If you have a PWS (or many PWS's!) currently reporting to us, your access for that data is, and will be, free.

I will check on the 10-day forecast specifically.

Victoria Gardner
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What I would like to still do is access, without a fee, the 10-day forecasts of other PWS aside aside my own (now 20 instead of 18) PWS (and counting) sending weather data to Wunderground every 15 minutes for free. I believe that uploading our data to your site for free would be enough payment for us to use the API to get forecasts from other PWS without a fee. Charge others who are just users but not contributing their PWS data to Wunderground.
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Nelio, thank you for clarifying that the 10-day forecast is important for your local setting.  

Would it be possible to email me to provide details (url, exact use, context)?  I want to understand your needs.  It helps me to understand the issues at play within the context of possible solutions.

Thank you!

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Wow, Wunderground. No free developer account??? WTF?  You just lost a potential customer. And I'm going to stop using you and recommending you. That's really sad. You're the first ones I thought of when I came up with a new startup idea, and using Wunderground APIs is just a non-starter now. 

If your new system (marketing team?) were worth anything they would know to implement rate limiters or other means to control traffic from a free developer account, like practically every other service created by competent developers. Seriously, in 2019 **in the internet age**, you're pay-only and shunning developers like that? It's a shame.

You want to know how to do it?

This is how you do it (but be more competitive in price):  https://openweathermap.org/price
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I'm sorry you feel that way.  The Weather Company does offer time-limited trial keys.  

We wish you the best in your future We're glad to host a place for open discussion about the WU API transition. 

We'd like to remind our PWS owners/contributors:
 
  • Your past data will always be available to you for viewing and download in a web browser on wunderground.com, just as it always has.
  • If you are in the small minority of people who use the WU API and a corresponding WU API key to obtain data in .json format, here's what's happening:
  1. We'll open a registration page for you to get a new API key to get your data in .json format
  2. You'll sign up and get a new API key for the new API
  3. Once the registration page is open, we'll keep the old API and your old API key active for 2 weeks to allow transition time to your new key
 
 
We'll announce in the forum when the registration page opens.
Or, email victoria.gardner@ibm.com to receive an email notification once it's ready.
 
The new API will provide access to:
  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

The documentation for the new API is available here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit


Victoria Gardner
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I have seen some information about costs...like 20x more. I cant afford that, so better remove what I have in use now
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question though, if a personal weather station owner is sending data to WU, can they still get that data via a owner only api key ?
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Brian, I'll contact you off forum, your use case is unique and hopefully we can work something out for you.
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Hi, yes I know the download of the past :-) This is one part I would need. I I could widh then an API where I regeister a websocket and then get data pushed once they get updated would be great. This would then be kind of "real time" and technically is not that complex. or be able to set a "Callback URL" where you actively push data to in a HTTP POST or GET call could also work.
But as written the second interesting part is the "local forcast" fpor at least the next day, especially for awaited rain, temperatures and such. But this is enough to check once per hour or such.
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This is in the plans for PWS owners.  So no, there's not yet any official documentation about it, but yes, it's within the range of what we're trying to accomplish.  

--Victoria
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Then one thing: It seems that my PWS was not correctly added to my WU account back then and so the PWS is not shown there. I contacted WU several times but got no answer to fix this assignment. I want to make sure to get these infos as "PWS owner" when the time has come. Who I should contact to check and fix it?
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Send me an email with A) the email addresses linked to the PWS and B) the PWS station IDs.  I'll check into it and get back to you via email.

-Victoria
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sent :-)
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As someone who has been sending data to Weather Underground for a while, but who just recently got in a better position to use the api to pull my own data, the fact that keys are no longer available is very disappointing.  I appreciate the issues that were raised, and the possibility of eventually getting access to the data I provide, but not having a timetable or a plan in place prior to cutting off new API keys isn't helpful.  Hopefully we will hear something soon, but will be looking into alternatives in the meantime.

Aaron 
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Disregard.  I just deleted by  wunderground account and will use other services.
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Aaron, understand the frustration, but we don't want to get into a situation where people are building things that will break in a few months as the service changes.  Expect more information in october, and some examples and documentation by end of october
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Thanks - I understand, it just isn't great for folks who are trying to get setup.  I'll move on to other services, but wish you guys the best in whatever you're trying to do.
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If WU can be more open to its PWS Owners than this hide and seek saga that they are carrying on with at present, I think WU may live another day.

But to hide, ignore 100's if not 1000's of emails and just stonewall its customers, well then....there needs to be a change of management and probably some new staff.
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Hi Tim
reading between the lines, I sense that it has been the mis use of the free api's and WU data in ways that was never intended that has put too much strain on the server's and that is what has prompted the removal of the free api's as they are now and a move to a different system aimed at commercial customers who can afford to pay more and will, yes? (if so I can understand that, as some systems have relied on wundergrounds data as your guys expense  too much)
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Hi, I am a non-commercial user of the API and would like to receive updates whenever available to learn about the new plan. Can I subscribe to a mailing list to be alerted when the new plan is made available? Your API is the most accurate weather data source I could find for my budget and I'd hate for my app to suffer due to a less efficient API. Any information would be greatly appreciated, thanks! 
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For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API.
What about developers who use the API for commercial purposes? The new Core plan API might have what I need, but it also has way more than I need. And the fact that there's no price listed anywhere makes me think that this will be priced far beyond what I can pay. My users want to view current data from a specific station. It's a small app that I made as a hobby project in my spare time, I'm not a big business (or a business at all). I have a small but loyal user base who like the simple and quick data presentation that I provide. I make enough to cover the current API costs, but If it costs even double what the old API was, then I'm out.
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I have seen prices mentioned of like $400/mth
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There are discounts available for legacy WU users. 
We don't have a list available for changes to the API, please check back here periodically for announcements
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Yeah, this is a ridiculously short amount of time for developers to switch. Developers should have several months to actually work with the new API before the old one is cut off (especially since new API's will probably be buggy - developers working with it early can help find those). And we don't even have API documentation yet to know if the data we actually want to get to is included or not. Before they said that access to an individual station's data was not going to be part of the new API, but now the info page for the Core plan kind of sounds like it will after all, but it's not clearly stated for sure. Maybe it's just talking about a location rather than an individual station. Weather buffs want THEIR station's data presented to them, not just for the general location.
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Amen. What kind of service announces a pulling of the plug on services in 3 months, with zero documentation or information about a replacement that we're supposed to switch to?
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As a PWS owner providing you data for free, you are just going to cut me off.  Maybe I should stop providing you data.  You need to take care of those providing you that free crowd sourced data.

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If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.
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So does that mean we continue sending you our data at the current rate/interval but will be restricted in our own retrieval rate? 100 calls a day is not going to cut it and if your company thinks we will pay (an undisclosed amount) Then it's time to move on again. I sense the continued way these responses are answered is intened to leave us in the dark as long as possible.

Andy
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Andy, we anticipate 1000 calls/day and 30 calls/min as the upper limits with the new API for PWS uploaders, once it's ready.  

Victoria Gardner
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I am the author of the popular WU-forecast.php script which allows personal weather website owners to display the WU forecast for their area using the WU API key.  The script is in use on several hundred websites around the world.  With the upcoming discontinue of the WU API, these sites (most of them WU data contributors) will not have a forecast to display.

Will there be a free API key for the Weather.com API for low-volume use offered so I can rewrite the script for the new API?  If not, I will likely have to discontinue the WU-forecast.php script (making several hundred current users quite peeved, in addition to my strong disappointment that WU continues to shed functions that have long been supported by your data contributors).
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I unable to create an account
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Yes, Kings Force, because the API will be closing down soon, we are no longer creating new accounts. 
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I currently have a Cumulus Downpour account and would like to downgrade. How or whom should I contact to do this? Thank you!
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Tom, I am pretty sure that hardcoding an upload point is a bad idea from a software standpoint.  Everything changes.  Everything.  And that especially goes for anything on the Internet.

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I didn't mean literally mean hard coding, perhaps default is a better word.

But let's be clear that if the default endpoint is WU from Acurite, it's unlikely that it will ever change and there are always technical workarounds if things change.  

Besides, the lifespan of those Acurite weather stations is short enough that as those default endpoints change, so will the defaults from Acurite.

As I said, smart work by WU.
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Bows to James lovely use of sarcasm.
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Remind me why PWS owners will want to share their data with a company that has only maximum profit in mind...? I don't quite comprehend.
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Are you asking me, Mike?  I don't inquire about people's motives when they ask for my assistance, so I really cannot speak to that.  I can only tell you that people do. 
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I have several PWS deployed in Guatemala, and had advocated in Latin America about WU platform for years as a way to make weather data available to more users specially in Latin America where met services lack this kind of information.

I convinced a lot of people in the region to deploy PWS's because I noted that the forecast got better after some days of data being sent, I think that the PWS network that all wx enthusiasts like us helped to built is one of the big assets that made WU appealing to TWC and then to IBM.

I understand business decisions, but as many has mentioned before, as a PWS network user and WU site user I feel all this was abandoned since these Corporate changes. The crowdsourcing model made you and all users had access to realtime data in remote location like yours and like ours in Latin America.

I just want a fair treat with a forecast API for users that has contributed to this platform (many of us for years when WU was a great startup). Just imagine how many hours in development has been invested like what saratogaWX has mentioned that must start again from 0 or loose what accomplished.

BTW, I came here via a Google search, did not received an email, all of you fellow PWS owners receive something ?
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As Tim Roche notes above, personal weather station (PWS) owners will not be impacted.  They will have access through the keys they already have to their own data, and probably a limited range of short-term forecasts. 

We're trying to get to the point of rolling out information about this publicly, it's just not quite ready yet.  More to come!

Victoria Gardner
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What about those PWS owner that need a key in the first place?
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A key is one method of gating (permitting access to) an API -- there are others.  We're working on making sure that issue is addressed.

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Yea I use the API in my relay program to CWOP to pull airport and GPS data from WU on install. I was sent no info on this and found it by accident. I dont use forcast users requested a API and entered it in the program to pull there station status. Everything will have to be rewritten with out notice.

Also anyone know why we are nolonger allowed to delete bad data from out station page....


I do have a wepage that pulls data but rather then rewrite the code I might as well create a script to post data to my website direct. If openweather didnt have a broken unusable API I would use it.
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Hi, Tmaster.  

We have done everything we can to reach API keyholders.  I'm sorry we were unable to reach you.

The API will continue to function past the end of the year for PWS owner/uploaders until the new API for PWS owner/uploaders is ready.  If you want a peak at the documentation for the new API, you can look here.

Sincerely,

Victoria Gardner
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I am using the Wunderground service to control my garden watering sprinkler system by weather parameters. The OpenSprinkler system used is a commercial product, but it is used for non-commercial purposes. The weather parameters needed are yesterdays mean temperature, yesterdays min. and max. humidtity and yesterdays and todays precipitation summary. A 4-day weather forecast is also retrieved for convenience reasons.  All this data is send to Wunderground by my own PWS via Meteoware for Netatmo and retrieved by OpenSprinkler software via my free Wunderground API key at a low call volume rate. In summary historical, current conditions, astronomy and forecast data is requested on an hourly basis.

The question is now will this service be stopped by the end of the year? Is it just a new API key? Are there changes in the API interface that need software adaptations?


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There will be more changes than just an API key change.  The interface will be different as well.    I have reached out to open sprinkler to make sure they are aware of these changes.
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Tina Denuit

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We need to urgently upgrade from Shower plan to one with higher limits, I can't do that online anymore. Submitted request with weater.com - no response so far. Please have someone contact me asap.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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I've sent you an email, but as a commercial account, have you completed the form on the right side of the page here:  http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html?  That will generally be the best starting point for commercial users of the Weather Underground API.

I will also continue to follow up on this with you privately.

-Victoria Gardner

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Tina Denuit

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I submitted that form weeks ago, no response
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Andy Kerekes

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It seems the same response all the time. I have yet to have an email answered in the past 10-11 months.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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Hi, Andy.

My email is victoria.gardner@ibm.com. Feel free to resend whatever question you have there.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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I have passed along the information that each of you is trying to get in touch.  Perhaps give it a week or so, and let me know if no one has gotten back to you.

Victoria
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
phone:  978-552-1406
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jhyland

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When will there be some documentation released covering the changes to the API? I'm utilizing the WU API for non-commercial purposes.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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Yes, as soon as we have it, you will have it.

Victoria
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
phone:  978-552-1406
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Matt Brady

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How about pricing? Documentation and a usable beta is critical but none of that matters if I can’t afford the new API and I have to kill my 5+ year old iOS app. I would like to have these answers a couple months ago at the latest.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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Matt, congratulations for keeping an iOS app alive! 

I can contact someone on the sales side to push you up the contact queue if you'd like. 
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Claude Felizardo

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Matt Brady has a good point as we might not want to renew an apple developer account if the new API pricing puts it more than we are willing to spend.  

Also waiting to hear what the plan will be for those of us who are contributing data.  It would be good if a message is posted here when PWS owners are being contacted to make sure we aren't left out.
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

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I'll be sure to post an announcement when there's more information!
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chrisjx

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Will the new service be paying for data provided by private weather stations?  ;)