End of Service for the Weather Underground API

  • 10
  • Announcement
  • Updated 2 days ago
  • (Edited)
We’re contacting you today to tell you about some upcoming changes to the Weather Underground (WU) API and what these changes mean for you.

The WU API has been around since 2010 to help you develop apps and websites as well as manage your Personal Weather Station data.  During that time, we’ve watched you build amazing products and visualize weather data with creativity and purpose.

Over the years, our infrastructure has struggled to keep up with the growing numbers of users coming to us for API data. We realized we needed to make changes to ensure the highest level of quality, performance and uptime for our API users.

As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to retire the Weather Underground API. The Weather Company, which acquired WU back in 2012, offers a powerful suite of enterprise-grade APIs that might be better suited to meet your scale and performance needs while offering a broader range of weather data. You can see these products here.

Here’s what you need to know going forward:

  • Your subscriptions, and therefore access, will continue to work through 12/31/2018.

  • If you are a paying WU API customer, you will receive a call from a representative from The Weather Company, and IBM business, to discuss transition options to other API services. If you’d like to have these conversations sooner, contact us.

  • If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.

  • For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API. Stay tuned for more details as we build this out.

  • The WU Forum will continue to be the best place to connect, keep you informed, share your feedback and get your questions answered as we go through this process.


We are grateful for your commitment to Weather Underground and appreciate your understanding and support as we work through this process. These changes will allow us to continually improve our services and develop new features to keep WU a thriving place for you for many years to come.

Thanks for being part of the community.

Sincerely,

The WU Team
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes

Posted 1 month ago

  • 10
Photo of conligwx

conligwx

  • 11 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
"If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized."

Personally I am not worried about getting history of my data I send to you. it is written to SQL on my site as well.

I think most PWS users that run a site would like to know if you could confirm there will be a forecast offered via API to PWS Owners or not?
(Edited)
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
Yes, we expect to have basic forecast data included in the API offering for PWS owners.  Can you let us know what your needs are for forecasts?  We want to focus strongly on the needs of PWS owners for this new API.
Photo of conligwx

conligwx

  • 11 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
Tim, I would then contact one of our most Prestigious Script writers. Ken True aka Saratoga Templates.

If you dont have his email then contact him here:

http://saratoga-weather.org/contact.php

 
Photo of saratogaWX

saratogaWX

  • 2 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
I've signed up here also and eagerly await info on the new API.

To be usable for weather hobbyists, it needs to be:
1) free for low-volume queries (< 100 api accesses per day)
2) provide essentially the same data as provided by the current API for a 10-day forecast query (day/night needed .. hourly not needed).

Photo of christopher.r.spitler

christopher.r.spitler

  • 1 Post
  • 1 Reply Like
the big concern i have is the integration ability for my home automation. control4 has a driver to pull API data, and as i run a PWS, i need the data from it into my automation in order to calculate certain values and make certain decisions. are you working with partners like control4 to ensure this is done?
Photo of bill.king.tx

bill.king.tx

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
I also need this API as soon as possible to prevent issues with solar shades and thermostats.
Photo of Michael Dellatacoma

Michael Dellatacoma

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Hello. I work for a Fortune 100 company and we are users of the Weather Underground API. Recently, the free API stopped working and we are interested in purchasing an API key.  I have filled out the Contact form twice and tried calling your sales office. After 2 weeks, I have yet to receive a response. I would like to know how to resolve this issue as this is impacting our production applications.
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
Yikes!  The free API offering was never intended for production offerings. I've sent your email address off to our sales team, hopefully they can get you set up with something to meet your needs
Photo of Brent

Brent

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
I am in a similar boat and would like to be contacted. How can we make this happen?
Photo of marc

marc

  • 1 Post
  • 2 Reply Likes
Dear Weather people,

This is really, really sad. Even killed the old Forum credentials which you could have copied over to this forum’s login. Made us start over again.

Its not usually a good idea to upset your largest base of community developers. Wunderground is where innovation happened. It feels like you bought it and killed it. Can you at least copy over the wunderground API call syntax for hobbyists, so we don’t have to learn new and re-write all our calls to your new API? Some of us took many years to learn Wunderground’s API, and we get to start over again? Very sad. I’m so upset i’m shopping for other places to go. You seem to be badly abusing your monopoly status in he US. Hate to send my calls to one of the UK services that are still friendly to hobbyists, but I will consider it.

I may also have to stop sending my Gold-star station data every 5 seconds to a new service entirely. Like many station owners, I’ve been feeding this scientific data to wunderground for many years and never received any compensation from any of the ads on my station page. And this is the thanks we get? The only return I received from it was the ability to make calls occasionally through the API, which stayed about the same and very reliable for many years. Now we’ll be switched over to some big corporate bloated API that we probably won’t be able to get working.

The Weathee company is making hand over fist based on your accounting in your annual reports. It’s bizarre to me that one of the services you bought with the most unique batch of home weather hackers on Earth, with an increasing number of calls (not decreasing) to the API, couldn’t just be left alone and subsidized by the mother company if needed to keep your team of underground hackers on your side.

R&D takes forever to make money, and Wund is your grass-roots R&D area.l and you’re killing it

Something tells me there is some fundamental reason why you’re killing Wund. Is it because I only have the Wund App on my phone and not the TWC app? Is someoneMs ego rustled by that?

I use Wund because the page usually loads very fast and is easy to read and find things that I want to see. You should at least add a new “weather hacks” area to weather.com then, a new home for those left out in the cold by this to play and innovate. We all benefit from this. I really feel sad for universities who will have to change all their software to find data somewhere else for their research.

I predict you will lose data feeds from home stations. Maybe you don’t care. I’m a world where big data is now king, making a move to potentially lose free data doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

If anyone knows another place to move to from Wund and take my station data, please reply.

I’d also like to hear any theories about the real reason this is happening. Makes no sense that a massive company can’t keep a small innovation arm going. The PEOPLE who feed data to and experiment with Wund’s API are what matter here. And I feel youMre about to lose a lot of us.

Marc
Photo of ydnew nine

ydnew nine

  • 1 Post
  • 1 Reply Like
Two imagined "real" reasons (for lack of any honest answers):
COUNTERCULTURAL 
Funny how elitist corporate culture hates anything described as grass-roots. Consider that the title "Weather Underground" traces its origins to a counter-cultural hippie group that specialized in 1960s anti-establishment antics. As cool as that may sound to many, Weather Co. brass may find it too 'radical'.

CONSPIRATORIAL
(This point is entirely hypothetical, so don't go claiming it is real, unless, of course, it is): Perhaps the underground weather junkies using this stuff might've been able to detect very early signs of a catastrophic-type natural disaster --  if the service remained status quo. Heaven forbid that "regular folks" could access a network capable of communicating factual details, advance warnings, and perhaps a window of public preparation time. Corporate elitists could have other plans. Thus, they end Wund API  and its potential for truthful details to be reported by ground-level troops, and instead retain control behind a company firewall. 

Just sayin'
Photo of László Gönczöl

László Gönczöl

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes

ydnew nine: I tend to accept  your conspiratorial theory: this is the second time in the last few months that community (and therefore free) platforms will be cancelled and made available only for premium members. But this one (WU) is less acceptable.

Here, as PWS owners, we provide almost uptodate weather data of our region. Most of us with a more-or-less precise GPS data. 

In this case we had to payed for the data we are providing instead threating us to pay (How many? ) if using the API afterwards.

Anyhow:

As a result I will either not publish my weather data after 01.01.19

or with a much less precise geolocation.

-  Is this really the goal?

(Don't answer. I know it. :( )



Photo of Andy Morris

Andy Morris

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
We are a private school running a few PiClocks for weather and forecast data.  We would like to set up more PiClocks in the future but without weather data, it's kinda a dead project.  Will there be any API offerings for education?
Photo of Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

  • 7 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Hi Tim
currently I pay a monthly amount (20$ US), the stratus-drizzle plan,for a api key to get weather data. What happens after the end of     12/31/2018 ?                                       
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
Hi Brian, 
Someone will reach out to you shortly to review your options,  We are asking customers to move to our API offerings through the weather channel.  These APIs are supported by a much larger team and are much better suited for using in production systems.  The downside is they tend to be more expensive.
Photo of Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

  • 7 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
I have seen some information about costs...like 20x more. I cant afford that, so better remove what I have in use now
Photo of Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

  • 7 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
question though, if a personal weather station owner is sending data to WU, can they still get that data via a owner only api key ?
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
Brian, I'll contact you off forum, your use case is unique and hopefully we can work something out for you.
Photo of Aaron

Aaron

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
As someone who has been sending data to Weather Underground for a while, but who just recently got in a better position to use the api to pull my own data, the fact that keys are no longer available is very disappointing.  I appreciate the issues that were raised, and the possibility of eventually getting access to the data I provide, but not having a timetable or a plan in place prior to cutting off new API keys isn't helpful.  Hopefully we will hear something soon, but will be looking into alternatives in the meantime.

Aaron 
Photo of Aaron

Aaron

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
Disregard.  I just deleted by  wunderground account and will use other services.
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
Aaron, understand the frustration, but we don't want to get into a situation where people are building things that will break in a few months as the service changes.  Expect more information in october, and some examples and documentation by end of october
Photo of Aaron

Aaron

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
Thanks - I understand, it just isn't great for folks who are trying to get setup.  I'll move on to other services, but wish you guys the best in whatever you're trying to do.
Photo of conligwx

conligwx

  • 11 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
If WU can be more open to its PWS Owners than this hide and seek saga that they are carrying on with at present, I think WU may live another day.

But to hide, ignore 100's if not 1000's of emails and just stonewall its customers, well then....there needs to be a change of management and probably some new staff.
Photo of Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

  • 7 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Hi Tim
reading between the lines, I sense that it has been the mis use of the free api's and WU data in ways that was never intended that has put too much strain on the server's and that is what has prompted the removal of the free api's as they are now and a move to a different system aimed at commercial customers who can afford to pay more and will, yes? (if so I can understand that, as some systems have relied on wundergrounds data as your guys expense  too much)
Photo of Mike C

Mike C

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Hi, I am a non-commercial user of the API and would like to receive updates whenever available to learn about the new plan. Can I subscribe to a mailing list to be alerted when the new plan is made available? Your API is the most accurate weather data source I could find for my budget and I'd hate for my app to suffer due to a less efficient API. Any information would be greatly appreciated, thanks! 
Photo of Matt Brady

Matt Brady

  • 4 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API.
What about developers who use the API for commercial purposes? The new Core plan API might have what I need, but it also has way more than I need. And the fact that there's no price listed anywhere makes me think that this will be priced far beyond what I can pay. My users want to view current data from a specific station. It's a small app that I made as a hobby project in my spare time, I'm not a big business (or a business at all). I have a small but loyal user base who like the simple and quick data presentation that I provide. I make enough to cover the current API costs, but If it costs even double what the old API was, then I'm out.
Photo of Brian Hamilton

Brian Hamilton

  • 7 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
I have seen prices mentioned of like $400/mth
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
There are discounts available for legacy WU users. 
We don't have a list available for changes to the API, please check back here periodically for announcements
Photo of James Anding

James Anding

  • 59 Posts
  • 47 Reply Likes
WU doesn't want anyone to know what the cost or what the API will look like until it's so late a lot of users will have to stay. Any decent company would have informed their user base long ago about the changes so they could make the necessary study of how it affects them. They have ignored for over a year any request or bugs. They kept this a tight secret until now. You only have about 2 1/2 months from now until the current API is discontinues. That's a horrible way to run a company and I bet it doesn't change much once it is switched over. Start now to find another source to upload your data and get information about other API's. If you think WU is the best place to be, you are incorrect. There are much better companies out there.
Anyone who wants to know a better place let me know. I can give you one.

Photo of Mike C

Mike C

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Could you recommend a weather API that also provides severe weather alerts like flood watches or hurricane warnings?
(Edited)
Photo of Matt Brady

Matt Brady

  • 4 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
Yeah, this is a ridiculously short amount of time for developers to switch. Developers should have several months to actually work with the new API before the old one is cut off (especially since new API's will probably be buggy - developers working with it early can help find those). And we don't even have API documentation yet to know if the data we actually want to get to is included or not. Before they said that access to an individual station's data was not going to be part of the new API, but now the info page for the Core plan kind of sounds like it will after all, but it's not clearly stated for sure. Maybe it's just talking about a location rather than an individual station. Weather buffs want THEIR station's data presented to them, not just for the general location.
Photo of xd1936

xd1936

  • 4 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
Amen. What kind of service announces a pulling of the plug on services in 3 months, with zero documentation or information about a replacement that we're supposed to switch to?
Photo of David Wood

David Wood

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
As a PWS owner providing you data for free, you are just going to cut me off.  Maybe I should stop providing you data.  You need to take care of those providing you that free crowd sourced data.

Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 35 Reply Likes
If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.
Photo of Andy Kerekes

Andy Kerekes

  • 6 Posts
  • 7 Reply Likes
So does that mean we continue sending you our data at the current rate/interval but will be restricted in our own retrieval rate? 100 calls a day is not going to cut it and if your company thinks we will pay (an undisclosed amount) Then it's time to move on again. I sense the continued way these responses are answered is intened to leave us in the dark as long as possible.

Andy
Photo of saratogaWX

saratogaWX

  • 2 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
I am the author of the popular WU-forecast.php script which allows personal weather website owners to display the WU forecast for their area using the WU API key.  The script is in use on several hundred websites around the world.  With the upcoming discontinue of the WU API, these sites (most of them WU data contributors) will not have a forecast to display.

Will there be a free API key for the Weather.com API for low-volume use offered so I can rewrite the script for the new API?  If not, I will likely have to discontinue the WU-forecast.php script (making several hundred current users quite peeved, in addition to my strong disappointment that WU continues to shed functions that have long been supported by your data contributors).
Photo of KiNGS FORCE

KiNGS FORCE

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
I unable to create an account
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 21 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Yes, Kings Force, because the API will be closing down soon, we are no longer creating new accounts. 
Photo of Lucian Baciu

Lucian Baciu

  • 7 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
I currently have a Cumulus Downpour account and would like to downgrade. How or whom should I contact to do this? Thank you!
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 15 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Lucian, there's no way to downgrade at this point.  Perhaps the best option would be for me to have someone get in touch with you about moving your account to the new API.  Shall I do that?
Photo of Eric Avila

Eric Avila

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
I have several PWS deployed in Guatemala, and had advocated in Latin America about WU platform for years as a way to make weather data available to more users specially in Latin America where met services lack this kind of information.

I convinced a lot of people in the region to deploy PWS's because I noted that the forecast got better after some days of data being sent, I think that the PWS network that all wx enthusiasts like us helped to built is one of the big assets that made WU appealing to TWC and then to IBM.

I understand business decisions, but as many has mentioned before, as a PWS network user and WU site user I feel all this was abandoned since these Corporate changes. The crowdsourcing model made you and all users had access to realtime data in remote location like yours and like ours in Latin America.

I just want a fair treat with a forecast API for users that has contributed to this platform (many of us for years when WU was a great startup). Just imagine how many hours in development has been invested like what saratogaWX has mentioned that must start again from 0 or loose what accomplished.

BTW, I came here via a Google search, did not received an email, all of you fellow PWS owners receive something ?
(Edited)
Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 328 Posts
  • 36 Reply Likes
The PWS network will not be impacted by this change.  Commercial use cases will be shifted to our enterprise offerings, and non commercial use cases with low call volumes will not be impacted. 
Photo of Matt Brady

Matt Brady

  • 4 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
And what about commercial use cases that are relatively low volume and don't need (and cannot afford) forecasts, maps, etc, just daily station data? My 5 year old iOS app will be dead in the water if I still can't get that information for about the same cost. I make a little bit from an ad banner, but not enough to afford a huge price increase. 

When can we expect prices and a beta API developers can start testing with? Time is running out, not everyone is in a position to turn around changes that fast. 
Photo of László Gönczöl

László Gönczöl

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Eric:  >> BTW, I came here via a Google search, did not received an email, all of you fellow PWS owners receive something ?
the same here. As a PWS owner  I also just reading this post because a friend drew my attention to it. :(
And just curious what will happen with my (btw presonnal) weather data after 01.01.2019.
Probably I will stop to publish them and keep the data providing by the hardware just private. It's  a pity.

Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 43 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
As Tim Roche notes above, personal weather station (PWS) owners will not be impacted.  They will have access through the keys they already have to their own data, and probably a limited range of short-term forecasts. 

We're trying to get to the point of rolling out information about this publicly, it's just not quite ready yet.  More to come!

Victoria Gardner
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
Photo of Don Jeanine Hartman

Don Jeanine Hartman

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
What about those PWS owner that need a key in the first place?
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 43 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
A key is one method of gating (permitting access to) an API -- there are others.  We're working on making sure that issue is addressed.

Victoria Gardner
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
Photo of Franz Stein

Franz Stein

  • 1 Post
  • 2 Reply Likes
I am using the Wunderground service to control my garden watering sprinkler system by weather parameters. The OpenSprinkler system used is a commercial product, but it is used for non-commercial purposes. The weather parameters needed are yesterdays mean temperature, yesterdays min. and max. humidtity and yesterdays and todays precipitation summary. A 4-day weather forecast is also retrieved for convenience reasons.  All this data is send to Wunderground by my own PWS via Meteoware for Netatmo and retrieved by OpenSprinkler software via my free Wunderground API key at a low call volume rate. In summary historical, current conditions, astronomy and forecast data is requested on an hourly basis.

The question is now will this service be stopped by the end of the year? Is it just a new API key? Are there changes in the API interface that need software adaptations?


Photo of Tim Roche

Tim Roche, Official Rep

  • 325 Posts
  • 34 Reply Likes
There will be more changes than just an API key change.  The interface will be different as well.    I have reached out to open sprinkler to make sure they are aware of these changes.
Photo of Tina Denuit

Tina Denuit

  • 3 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
We need to urgently upgrade from Shower plan to one with higher limits, I can't do that online anymore. Submitted request with weater.com - no response so far. Please have someone contact me asap.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 20 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Tina, I tried to find your account but was unable to.  If this is still unresolved, would you please email me at victoria.gardner@ibm.com?
Photo of Tina Denuit

Tina Denuit

  • 3 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Yes, still not resolved. I sent you an email.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 20 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I've sent you an email, but as a commercial account, have you completed the form on the right side of the page here:  http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html?  That will generally be the best starting point for commercial users of the Weather Underground API.

I will also continue to follow up on this with you privately.

-Victoria Gardner

Photo of Tina Denuit

Tina Denuit

  • 3 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
I submitted that form weeks ago, no response
Photo of Andy Kerekes

Andy Kerekes

  • 6 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
It seems the same response all the time. I have yet to have an email answered in the past 10-11 months.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 20 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Hi, Andy.

My email is victoria.gardner@ibm.com. Feel free to resend whatever question you have there.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 20 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I have passed along the information that each of you is trying to get in touch.  Perhaps give it a week or so, and let me know if no one has gotten back to you.

Victoria
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
phone:  978-552-1406
Photo of jhyland

jhyland

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
When will there be some documentation released covering the changes to the API? I'm utilizing the WU API for non-commercial purposes.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 21 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Yes, as soon as we have it, you will have it.

Victoria
victoria.gardner@ibm.com
phone:  978-552-1406
Photo of Matt Brady

Matt Brady

  • 4 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
How about pricing? Documentation and a usable beta is critical but none of that matters if I can’t afford the new API and I have to kill my 5+ year old iOS app. I would like to have these answers a couple months ago at the latest.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 21 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Matt, congratulations for keeping an iOS app alive! 

I can contact someone on the sales side to push you up the contact queue if you'd like. 
Photo of Claude Felizardo

Claude Felizardo

  • 9 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
Matt Brady has a good point as we might not want to renew an apple developer account if the new API pricing puts it more than we are willing to spend.  

Also waiting to hear what the plan will be for those of us who are contributing data.  It would be good if a message is posted here when PWS owners are being contacted to make sure we aren't left out.
Photo of Victoria Gardner

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

  • 21 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I'll be sure to post an announcement when there's more information!