The WU API has been around since 2010 to help you develop apps and websites as well as manage your Personal Weather Station data. During that time, we’ve watched you build amazing products and visualize weather data with creativity and purpose.
Over the years, our infrastructure has struggled to keep up with the growing numbers of users coming to us for API data. We realized we needed to make changes to ensure the highest level of quality, performance and uptime for our API users.
As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to retire the Weather Underground API. The Weather Company, which acquired WU back in 2012, offers a powerful suite of enterprise-grade APIs that might be better suited to meet your scale and performance needs while offering a broader range of weather data. You can see these products here.
Here’s what you need to know going forward:
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Your subscriptions, and therefore access, will continue to work through 12/31/2018.
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If you are a paying WU API customer, you will receive a call from a representative from The Weather Company, and IBM business, to discuss transition options to other API services. If you’d like to have these conversations sooner, contact us.
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If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.
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The WU Forum will continue to be the best place to connect, keep you informed, share your feedback and get your questions answered as we go through this process.
We are grateful for your commitment to Weather Underground and appreciate your understanding and support as we work through this process. These changes will allow us to continually improve our services and develop new features to keep WU a thriving place for you for many years to come.
Thanks for being part of the community.
Sincerely,
The WU Team
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Personally I am not worried about getting history of my data I send to you. it is written to SQL on my site as well.
I think most PWS users that run a site would like to know if you could confirm there will be a forecast offered via API to PWS Owners or not?
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If you dont have his email then contact him here:
http://saratoga-weather.org/contact.php
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To be usable for weather hobbyists, it needs to be:
1) free for low-volume queries (< 100 api accesses per day)
2) provide essentially the same data as provided by the current API for a 10-day forecast query (day/night needed .. hourly not needed).
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I can do without the rest like alerts, geolookup, astronomy, tide, yesterday...pretty much everything I can do without except for forecast and hourly!
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Very few people are looking for their own data back. I have a decade's worth of data, I can use that all day long.
What everyone is looking for is enriched data, that's the value add. I don't believe just my immediate forecast for my "microclimate" (to misuse a word) is all that valuable. For the DC area, for example, I would expect to be able to pull forecasts for the region.
Since you Weather.com offers 5/10 day and hourly forecasts for specific areas, I would hope to be able to access similarly enriched data.
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However, forecasting is something our weather stations are very hit or miss at and where that data from weather underground is quite valuable. Beyond the automation and analysis I run, I also maintain public and federal trails and having a local forecast (daily and hourly) has been very beneficial. The symbiotic relationship between Weather Underground and the PWS owners has been win/win and I hope we can still share our plentiful data with them in exchange for forecasting api calls.
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As I've noted elsewhere, development is in progress for enabling precision on some values. We hope that it will be finished by the end of April.
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Then look at the documentation here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit
Specifically, you'll want the 5-day forecast API: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RY44O8ujbIA_tjlC4vYKHKzwSwEmNxuGw5sEJ9dYjG4/edit
There are five different formats in which you can request a forecast, so you will want to see which is best for your purposes.
If you have any trouble, please let me know.
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This is really, really sad. Even killed the old Forum credentials which you could have copied over to this forum’s login. Made us start over again.
Its not usually a good idea to upset your largest base of community developers. Wunderground is where innovation happened. It feels like you bought it and killed it. Can you at least copy over the wunderground API call syntax for hobbyists, so we don’t have to learn new and re-write all our calls to your new API? Some of us took many years to learn Wunderground’s API, and we get to start over again? Very sad. I’m so upset i’m shopping for other places to go. You seem to be badly abusing your monopoly status in he US. Hate to send my calls to one of the UK services that are still friendly to hobbyists, but I will consider it.
I may also have to stop sending my Gold-star station data every 5 seconds to a new service entirely. Like many station owners, I’ve been feeding this scientific data to wunderground for many years and never received any compensation from any of the ads on my station page. And this is the thanks we get? The only return I received from it was the ability to make calls occasionally through the API, which stayed about the same and very reliable for many years. Now we’ll be switched over to some big corporate bloated API that we probably won’t be able to get working.
The Weathee company is making hand over fist based on your accounting in your annual reports. It’s bizarre to me that one of the services you bought with the most unique batch of home weather hackers on Earth, with an increasing number of calls (not decreasing) to the API, couldn’t just be left alone and subsidized by the mother company if needed to keep your team of underground hackers on your side.
R&D takes forever to make money, and Wund is your grass-roots R&D area.l and you’re killing it
Something tells me there is some fundamental reason why you’re killing Wund. Is it because I only have the Wund App on my phone and not the TWC app? Is someoneMs ego rustled by that?
I use Wund because the page usually loads very fast and is easy to read and find things that I want to see. You should at least add a new “weather hacks” area to weather.com then, a new home for those left out in the cold by this to play and innovate. We all benefit from this. I really feel sad for universities who will have to change all their software to find data somewhere else for their research.
I predict you will lose data feeds from home stations. Maybe you don’t care. I’m a world where big data is now king, making a move to potentially lose free data doesn’t seem to make sense to me.
If anyone knows another place to move to from Wund and take my station data, please reply.
I’d also like to hear any theories about the real reason this is happening. Makes no sense that a massive company can’t keep a small innovation arm going. The PEOPLE who feed data to and experiment with Wund’s API are what matter here. And I feel youMre about to lose a lot of us.
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COUNTERCULTURAL
Funny how elitist corporate culture hates anything described as grass-roots. Consider that the title "Weather Underground" traces its origins to a counter-cultural hippie group that specialized in 1960s anti-establishment antics. As cool as that may sound to many, Weather Co. brass may find it too 'radical'.
CONSPIRATORIAL
(This point is entirely hypothetical, so don't go claiming it is real, unless, of course, it is): Perhaps the underground weather junkies using this stuff might've been able to detect very early signs of a catastrophic-type natural disaster -- if the service remained status quo. Heaven forbid that "regular folks" could access a network capable of communicating factual details, advance warnings, and perhaps a window of public preparation time. Corporate elitists could have other plans. Thus, they end Wund API and its potential for truthful details to be reported by ground-level troops, and instead retain control behind a company firewall.
Just sayin'
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ydnew nine: I tend to accept your conspiratorial theory: this is the second time in the last few months that community (and therefore free) platforms will be cancelled and made available only for premium members. But this one (WU) is less acceptable.
Here, as PWS owners, we provide almost uptodate weather data of our region. Most of us with a more-or-less precise GPS data.
In this case we had to payed for the data we are providing instead threating us to pay (How many? ) if using the API afterwards.
Anyhow:
As a result I will either not publish my weather data after 01.01.19
or with a much less precise geolocation.
- Is this really the goal?
(Don't answer. I know it. :( )
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I understand that these changes can be difficult but I want to assure you that Personal Weather Station (PWS) contributors will continue to have complete, uninterrupted access to their own data as well as a limited range of additional data, such as short-term forecast, through the Weather Underground API as well as through the Wunderground web site. If you have a PWS currently reporting to us, your access for that data is, and will be, free.
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So far as I know, there are no current problems with uploading data, either. New PWS users can join the platform here: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/signup?new=1
But in any case, I wish you all the best for your future endeavors.
Victoria Gardner
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You don't know about the problems - well then simply scan through YOUR OWN FORUMS... But it does not surprise me that nobody knows, simply because nobody really gives a sh.t...
Taking advantage of users that supported and got wunderground where it is today (well, where it was before greedy IBM took over...) simply makes me want to puke. So much for supporting a good cause for fellow weather enthusiasts.
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I understand you are disappointed in the way things have changed. I get it -- I started using WU in the late 90s when I was at the University of Michigan. But it is a business.
I look people in the eye who are doing what they can to keep that spark of WU alive. They are not that cartoon character of the evil, cigar-smoking businessman that you may be imagining. They genuinely care about the PWS owners; they care about weather data.
If you want to give me some specific issue, great. Otherwise, there is nothing I can do but continue to wish you well.
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Are individual weather station owners important to WU's business? What percentage of data come from donated data? What percentage of data collection is paid for by WU?
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Nevermind, It's on your site:
U.S. current conditions data comes from 180,000+ weather stations across the country including:
- Almost 2,000 Automated Surface Observation System (ASOS) stations located at airports throughout the country. These are maintained by the Federal Aviation Administration and observations are updated hourly, or more frequently when adverse weather affecting aviation occurs (low visibility, precipitation, etc).
- Over 250,000 Personal Weather Stations (PWS's) that are part of Weather Underground's ever-expanding PWS network. Stations are put through strict quality controls and observations are updated as often as every 2.5 seconds.
- Over 26,000 weather stations that are part of the Meteorological Assimilation Data Ingest System (MADIS) which is managed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). For further information, see https://madis.ncep.noaa.gov/.
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I think you meant to say, " I spend all my time PRETENDING TO BE working with individuals on individual issues, NOT solving problems which were created by the greed of my paycheck-signers."
When they lay you off, have fun finding employment.
Corporate America: Getting free information and services from the Government and free Volunteer labor, while charging outrageous prices for the same.
The Revolution is coming!
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currently I pay a monthly amount (20$ US), the stratus-drizzle plan,for a api key to get weather data. What happens after the end of 12/31/2018 ?
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Someone will reach out to you shortly to review your options, We are asking customers to move to our API offerings through the weather channel. These APIs are supported by a much larger team and are much better suited for using in production systems. The downside is they tend to be more expensive.
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If you are a current PWS (personal weather station) user/key holder, you will continue to have complete, uninterrupted access to your data as well as a limited range of additional data, such as short-term forecast, through the Weather Underground API as well as through the Wunderground web site. If you have a PWS (or many PWS's!) currently reporting to us, your access for that data is, and will be, free.
I will check on the 10-day forecast specifically.
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Would it be possible to email me to provide details (url, exact use, context)? I want to understand your needs. It helps me to understand the issues at play within the context of possible solutions.
Thank you!
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If your new system (marketing team?) were worth anything they would know to implement rate limiters or other means to control traffic from a free developer account, like practically every other service created by competent developers. Seriously, in 2019 **in the internet age**, you're pay-only and shunning developers like that? It's a shame.
You want to know how to do it?
This is how you do it (but be more competitive in price): https://openweathermap.org/price
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We wish you the best in your future We're glad to host a place for open discussion about the WU API transition.
We'd like to remind our PWS owners/contributors:
- Your past data will always be available to you for viewing and download in a web browser on wunderground.com, just as it always has.
- If you are in the small minority of people who use the WU API and a corresponding WU API key to obtain data in .json format, here's what's happening:
- We'll open a registration page for you to get a new API key to get your data in .json format
- You'll sign up and get a new API key for the new API
- Once the registration page is open, we'll keep the old API and your old API key active for 2 weeks to allow transition time to your new key
We'll announce in the forum when the registration page opens.
Or, email victoria.gardner@ibm.com to receive an email notification once it's ready.
The new API will provide access to:
- Current observations from the PWS network
- 5 day daily forecast
- PWS historical data
- PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
- Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute
The documentation for the new API is available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit
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My weather station has a "direct connection" to WU ... So I only could get the data if I star with an own DNS in my home network that makes sure that the WU traffic from that "closed" device is redirected to a server of mine or such ...
So I have the topic that I want to get access to "my" data ... ideally the same "realtime" information (station sends any 3mins or such) as the station is sending so that I can also use wind data for my sun-protection controls.
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Of course this is separate from the API, but I want you to know what you do have access to.
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But as written the second interesting part is the "local forcast" fpor at least the next day, especially for awaited rain, temperatures and such. But this is enough to check once per hour or such.
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But to hide, ignore 100's if not 1000's of emails and just stonewall its customers, well then....there needs to be a change of management and probably some new staff.
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reading between the lines, I sense that it has been the mis use of the free api's and WU data in ways that was never intended that has put too much strain on the server's and that is what has prompted the removal of the free api's as they are now and a move to a different system aimed at commercial customers who can afford to pay more and will, yes? (if so I can understand that, as some systems have relied on wundergrounds data as your guys expense too much)
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For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API.What about developers who use the API for commercial purposes? The new Core plan API might have what I need, but it also has way more than I need. And the fact that there's no price listed anywhere makes me think that this will be priced far beyond what I can pay. My users want to view current data from a specific station. It's a small app that I made as a hobby project in my spare time, I'm not a big business (or a business at all). I have a small but loyal user base who like the simple and quick data presentation that I provide. I make enough to cover the current API costs, but If it costs even double what the old API was, then I'm out.
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We don't have a list available for changes to the API, please check back here periodically for announcements
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Will there be a free API key for the Weather.com API for low-volume use offered so I can rewrite the script for the new API? If not, I will likely have to discontinue the WU-forecast.php script (making several hundred current users quite peeved, in addition to my strong disappointment that WU continues to shed functions that have long been supported by your data contributors).
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So anyone who wants to change/edit their subscription is invited to send me an email.
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As I said weeks ago, make your own decisions based on the what provides value to you. WU has provided you pretty much all the info you need to make your decision.
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But let's be clear that if the default endpoint is WU from Acurite, it's unlikely that it will ever change and there are always technical workarounds if things change.
Besides, the lifespan of those Acurite weather stations is short enough that as those default endpoints change, so will the defaults from Acurite.
As I said, smart work by WU.
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I convinced a lot of people in the region to deploy PWS's because I noted that the forecast got better after some days of data being sent, I think that the PWS network that all wx enthusiasts like us helped to built is one of the big assets that made WU appealing to TWC and then to IBM.
I understand business decisions, but as many has mentioned before, as a PWS network user and WU site user I feel all this was abandoned since these Corporate changes. The crowdsourcing model made you and all users had access to realtime data in remote location like yours and like ours in Latin America.
I just want a fair treat with a forecast API for users that has contributed to this platform (many of us for years when WU was a great startup). Just imagine how many hours in development has been invested like what saratogaWX has mentioned that must start again from 0 or loose what accomplished.
BTW, I came here via a Google search, did not received an email, all of you fellow PWS owners receive something ?
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When can we expect prices and a beta API developers can start testing with? Time is running out, not everyone is in a position to turn around changes that fast.
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the same here. As a PWS owner I also just reading this post because a friend drew my attention to it. :(
And just curious what will happen with my (btw presonnal) weather data after 01.01.2019.
Probably I will stop to publish them and keep the data providing by the hardware just private. It's a pity.
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We're trying to get to the point of rolling out information about this publicly, it's just not quite ready yet. More to come!
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Also anyone know why we are nolonger allowed to delete bad data from out station page....
I do have a wepage that pulls data but rather then rewrite the code I might as well create a script to post data to my website direct. If openweather didnt have a broken unusable API I would use it.
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We have done everything we can to reach API keyholders. I'm sorry we were unable to reach you.
The API will continue to function past the end of the year for PWS owner/uploaders until the new API for PWS owner/uploaders is ready. If you want a peak at the documentation for the new API, you can look here.
Sincerely,
Victoria Gardner
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The question is now will this service be stopped by the end of the year? Is it just a new API key? Are there changes in the API interface that need software adaptations?
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I will also continue to follow up on this with you privately.
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My email is victoria.gardner@ibm.com. Feel free to resend whatever question you have there.
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I can contact someone on the sales side to push you up the contact queue if you'd like.
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Also waiting to hear what the plan will be for those of us who are contributing data. It would be good if a message is posted here when PWS owners are being contacted to make sure we aren't left out.
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Cabdiqaadir Barwaaqo
Ingo Fischer
joegr
If I can't get that, then I have no reason to continue to send you data.
William J Schmidt
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As mentioned elsewhere, PWS owners who send their data up to WU will have uninterrupted access to their data, and a limited range of other information, like forecasts, through an API that is being developed. The shift to the new API will likely occur after the first of the year, so for PWS holders, access to the WU API will continue past December 31 while we prepare for the transition. So PWS uploaders are is a special, protected class right now.
This shift is so that we can provide access to a better, more modern infrastructure. I'm pretty sure that's not nothing. Your data can be viewed by your community easily on a platform that's used worldwide. I'm pretty sure that's not nothing, either.
Whether you personally find value in it is a decision only you can make.
Victoria Gardner
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Nelio Altoveros
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It sounds as if you already see the value of our aggregating and incorporating the data into forecasts. That doesn't come free on our end, either.
PWS owners will be able to continue to use the WU API past the December 31, 2018 cut-off which will affect all other users who have not made prior sales contracts with TWC/IBM. PWS owners will subsequently have time to shift their calls once the new API is up and running. That is what we are doing in an effort to work with the many PWS uploaders who see the value in putting their data where large numbers of people can see and use it.
But things are not ever going back to the way things were before. Abundant free data on a global scale is just not possible. It was clearly unsustainable, or we wouldn't be here now.
I'm glad you're finding the Weather Underground useful, and I hope you will continue to do so.
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Paul Grace
Well no, it is not that it was unsustainable, it was that IBM bought the data stream by buying the aggregator. Perhaps a new open community will form around the PWS community, and cut IBM out of the data stream, perhaps not.
But let's not pretend it was because anything was "unsustainable"
"Abundant free data on a global scale is just not possible."
PWS data is compact. It's a tiny amount of data, and on a global scale is easily possible, and has been free at least since I used to upload it on a 300 baud modem.
The proof of this fact is that IBM will be continuing to host the data for PWS owners at no cost.
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
guy
Overall, I don't think IBM/WU wants to really continue the relationship with the PWS owners. Look at everything that has happened since the take over by IBM. Look at the tone set in this forum. And what about these statement from them... So PWS uploaders are is a special, protected class right now . Is this special protected class permanent...or just for the near term? Another member asks Are individual weather station owners important to WU's business, response, were not going to discuss this. If you read though this forum, I don't think they really need to answer, the answer is there without saying any written statement from them.
At this point, the best thing that could happen is that another company sees the value of the contributors of personal weather data and starts developing or expanding their own PWS system.
christopher.r.spitler
Victoria, I know you work for a behemoth company that is about the bottom line, but since you're representing IBM here, you should work to make sure your leadership doesn't burn the bridge. your team needs to get transition information and new API info out to PWS owners ASAP. you won't get a second chance with PWS owners once they move on to another provider.
Mike Brewer
Nobody is expecting abundant free data. Indeed, the existing WU API doesn't provide "abundant free data"... think there was a daily quota of only (IIRC) 500? ... can't find the pricing structure because it has gone. It was a chargeable service. Just like darksky and openweathermap, who also have a low free quota for testing and hobbyists.
> It was clearly unsustainable, or we wouldn't be here now
I really don't buy this line of argument. See above. The WU API was a paid service. The pricing structure could have been tweaked if it wasn't quite working, e.g. to reduce the free quota, and/or increase the cost. Surely if darksky can manage it, IBM can too? Dang, hand me the reins to the WU API and I could manage it myself... cloud servers are two-a-penny nowadays.
No, pure and simple this is a business decision from some suit in IBM somewhere. Something along the lines of "we have the TWC API for which we can charge big business rates; the WU API is merely taking business away from our cash cow TWC API".
I'm not a PWS owner myself, though I've often toyed with the idea, but I suspect that part of the ethos of a large majority of these people is that they take satisfaction in providing data -- along with thousands of others -- to provide a valuable resource for all. They don't want this to be some sort of "private members club" where only PWS owners have ongoing API access. It's like open-source developers wouldn't want access to their libraries restricted only to other developers who themselves are open-source developers.
The end result of this is, I suspect, that these PWS owners will drain away from WU and send their data to something more community-minded and less corporate.
But maybe that is what IBM wants. Shut down the competition and disrupt.
Maybe something else will rise to take over the space where WU used to be... I certainly hope so.
Paul Grace
For an explanation, see this video, from a Microsoft lawsuit where MS embraced the Linux standard, extended it adding new proprietary interfaces, and killed it.
https://youtu.be/TVHcdgrqbHE?t=684
Victoria Gardner, Official Rep
Mr. Spitler, I'm really not sure what you're talking about here. I am doing everything in my power to provide accurate information as soon as it's possible. That PWS owners are, as a group, being provided access beyond that offered to anyone else, to me that suggests that we are doing what is possible to facilitate a difficult shift for everyone.
I said that PWS owners would be a protected class "for now" because once they are the only class, they are all protected by default. I have no information whatsoever of PWS owners being shut out in the future.
PWS owners who are uploading their data will have uninterrupted access to their data, and a limited range of additional items. They will be able to access up to 1000 calls per day and 30 calls/minute. (This reflects an increase over what I mentioned before, which was the base level for the WU API.) When the API for the PWS uploaders is ready, we will provide a transition period to switch from the WU API to the new API. For PWS uploaders, the Weather Underground API will not close down on December 31.
For everyone else, and yes, this includes the many people with developer keys, the Weather Underground API will close down on December 31, 2018, unless they have made a prior contractual arrangement with IBM/The Weather Company.
Victoria Gardner
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christopher.r.spitler
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But I would like to point out that even when I don't have additional information, I am constantly answering posts. Which might add to the feeling you're not getting anything new, but it's different from, I think, not providing anything. You (the big collective you, not necessarily Christopher personally) have my email, you can poke me for updates. I remind you (again, the big collective you) of this just to say that I am not (I have no reason to believe!) going up in smoke on the 31st of December. It doesn't mean I will have information any faster, but you will continue to have it when I have it.
Victoria Gardner
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christopher.r.spitler
Either way, thanks for actually reading and responding to posts, that's more than most organizations do!
Victoria Gardner, Official Rep
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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep
The old WU API is being closed for reasons that were determined long ago. Backward compatible API are not trivial to build. Arguing about these sorts of details now will not change anything.
I'm sorry that this change is difficult, but the change is necessary. We appreciate that customers going through this transition with us are also struggling. Thank you for your continued efforts!
Victoria Gardner
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Staffan Sandberg
Victoria Gardner, Official Rep
I am happy to help you work out details, Staffan. But I need to look at actual data, and for that we need to move off a public forum.
Victoria Gardner
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Michel Paquet
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Jack Bass
JoeW49
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Kirk Davis
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petesalomone
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Trey Duncanson
Victoria Gardner, Official Rep
It's worth noting that the elevation seems to have been incorrect for some time. I see the same incorrect elevation in the old WU record as well.
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Pauley Wallnutz
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