End of Service for the Weather Underground API

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We’re contacting you today to tell you about some upcoming changes to the Weather Underground (WU) API and what these changes mean for you.

The WU API has been around since 2010 to help you develop apps and websites as well as manage your Personal Weather Station data.  During that time, we’ve watched you build amazing products and visualize weather data with creativity and purpose.

Over the years, our infrastructure has struggled to keep up with the growing numbers of users coming to us for API data. We realized we needed to make changes to ensure the highest level of quality, performance and uptime for our API users.

As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to retire the Weather Underground API. The Weather Company, which acquired WU back in 2012, offers a powerful suite of enterprise-grade APIs that might be better suited to meet your scale and performance needs while offering a broader range of weather data. You can see these products here.

Here’s what you need to know going forward:

  • Your subscriptions, and therefore access, will continue to work through 12/31/2018.

  • If you are a paying WU API customer, you will receive a call from a representative from The Weather Company, and IBM business, to discuss transition options to other API services. If you’d like to have these conversations sooner, contact us.

  • If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.

  • The WU Forum will continue to be the best place to connect, keep you informed, share your feedback and get your questions answered as we go through this process.


We are grateful for your commitment to Weather Underground and appreciate your understanding and support as we work through this process. These changes will allow us to continually improve our services and develop new features to keep WU a thriving place for you for many years to come.

Thanks for being part of the community.

Sincerely,

The WU Team
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If you're looking for alternative sources for current weather conditions, I've recently been using DarkSky (in addition to WU) and found it to be easy to use and work well. There's also a free tier of access that appears more generous than the old WU free tier is. (It allows 1000 calls per day. In my application, where I poll every 15 minutes, I have a lot lot more headroom under the limit.) Total work to add DarkSky support was on the order of an hour or two. (The API works essentially the same as WU, so no significant structural changes were required.)
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I just looked at Dark Sky.  Seems pretty nice.  API is simple to use.  The server is blazing fast.  WOW!
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What about this "Pay as you go pricing" from Dark Sky?
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Its free as long as you stay under their data rate pull (1000 calls per day).  Read about it.
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They also can cap calls at 1000 calls per day rather than just allowing them to happen and then billing. All in all, it seems very nicely done.
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Dark Sky foi uma boa opção Mike Schaeffer, obrigado!
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Wow IBM, way to ruin a good thing. The 50 trillion ads mucking up the UI plus all the free data you collect from private PWS's isn't enough? You are provided with all this data by private entities for for free. If you guys can't figure out how to monitise this thing without acting like brutes, then it's a lost cause. I'm not surprised though, it's very true to IBM form. You guys need new executive management something fierce! This whole weather data venture is poised to be yet another IBM failure, not because it's a bad idea, but because it's managed by fools.

I'm out. Precision PWS data uploads terminated.

I will remember this, IBM, when making future systems and hardware purchasing decisions.

IBM=NO  <--- Possible T-shirt idea.
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All the best to you, Paul.  

Seems as though the ads have been there since WU was its own entity, though.  Having been on it since the '90s myself, the ads were not a recent addition.  

Victoria Gardner
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I'm not saying IBM added the ads, just pointing out that they're there, and I'm sure they're not placed for free, which coincidentally, is what IBM is pays for the weather data that is sent to them.
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Hi, my company is a commercial user of WU API, and we didn't get any call or message from WU like you mentioned in this notice! It's horrible we didn't find it until today! And I click http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html, I can't see any price information. Can any official rep contact us ASAP?
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If you can, consider switching over to Dark Sky (darksky.net). They have a similar API, and aren't owned and operated by a bunch of dough-head corporate goons.

I switched my system over today, it's working wonderfully. Couldn't be happier!

Thanks Mike Schaeffer for the recomendation!
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Hi, Ac_it.  I cannot extract your email address from these posts.  Would you please email me directly? 

We tried to get in touch with everyone, but it seems not to have worked completely.  

Did you fill in the form at the link in your post?

Victoria Gardner
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I sent a note to DarkSky yesterday explaining the situation with WU.  They are ready and willing to take everyone off WU's hands with open arms and promise excellent support.  Again their server is faster than anything else out there.
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I want to test DarkSky api, but it download data in html format, on one line.
How can I download in json format, which is easier to implement ?
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Chepioq Chepioq-candy, Dark Sky's API does return data in json format.

Try requesting this sample URL and see if the returned text is json (It is for me):

https://api.darksky.net/forecast/8ab822d3af6537d726305b0d1e08631c/37.8267,-122.4233

Oh, note that if you're making the request from a web browser, the browser may reformat the data. When I make the request with Firefox, it detects the json and reformats it into a human readable representation. Chromium just displays the raw json.

Are you calling the API from code, or from a browser?


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William J Schmidt: That's awesome news! I only wish Dark Sky had a PWS upload API. I'd love to give someone the data I used to give to WU.
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@Paul Madsen
I use the opera browser, and with it your link return the raw data.
With firefox it's ok, I have a human readable.
I am with linux (fedora) and I use weather data for my conky-weather.
And I call the API with code with wget.
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Chepioq Chepioq-candy
Ok, Linux user here too. :)
So have you signed up with Dark Sky and received an API key? You just need to call the server with a URL similar to the sample that I posted that contains your API key, and latitude/longitude to get the json for your location. You can call 1000 times/day for free with your API key.
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I have an API key and I use that in console : 
 wget https://api.darksky.net/forecast/dea84fb9969d3b8cacc7fe980223c283/43.2924,5.5703?lang=fr
No json text
I try without ?lang=fr for same result
I also try with your API key for same result.
It's very strange and I don't know why...
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It returns json when I try it using wget.
{"latitude":43.2924,"longitude":5.5703,"timezone":"Europe/Paris"...
What do you get back?


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Chepioq Chepioq-candy:
Try this:

wget -O weather.json https://api.darksky.net/forecast/dea84fb9969d3b8cacc7fe980223c283/43.2924,5.5703?lang=fr

This tells wget to save the output to a file called "weather.json"
When I run this, I get a file called weather.json that contains the json data for your location.
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Ok but with your code I get a file named  weather.json but it's one line like this:
{"latitude":43.2924,"longitude":5.5703,"timezone":"Europe/Paris","currently"........

I think it's not a json format, like I can see on dark sky site.
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Chepioq Chepioq-candy: Yes, that is json. It's just not formatted with linefeeds and indentation to make it (more) human readable. It's meant to be as compact as possible and readable by code. You just need to parse out the information that you need.

If you have jq installed on your system (a command line json parser) you could use the following command to read the temperature out of your weather.json file and display it on the console for example:

cat weather.json | jq '.currently.temperature'

If you don't have jq installed, you'll need to install it for this to work. I don't have experience with Fedora, but I *think* you could install it with:

su -c 'yum install jq'

If that doesn't work, you'll have to figure out how to install it. Unfortunately, I don't have a Fedora system to test it on.
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Thank Paul that work fine.
I find the other for pressure, wind-speed etc...
And I have a file rawdata with that : 

cat weather.json | jq '.hourly.data' > rawdata

Thank a lot
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Chepioq Chepioq-candy:

Great! I'm glad it worked for you. :) 
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So I am a multiple PWS Owner/Contributor but i don't have a WU API Key.

I access my data via two main sources:
1) A third party app
2) Samsung Smartthings weather device handler

If 1) and 2) fail to commit to the extra charges and pay for a new IBM API, will i be offered a free key so that I can build an app that will access my PWS data and importantly the forecast?

Because no-one has contacted me so far, but I know you have my contact details. 

Thanks

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Hi, Neil.

Yes, PWS owner/uploaders will be able to get access to the new API.  See the most recent announcement here on the Forum for details.

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What is happening right now?

I am a PWS owner and provide you with data. I have had no contact from you. I would like to continue using WU to provide weather forecasts on my website.

HELP!
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Hi, Robin.

Please see the updates at https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-update.

If you still have questions, fire away.  I'm right here.

Victoria Gardner
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I've been using Weather Underground since the very early days, and I am (I believe) the first person ever to write a program that used the WU API -- a small, command-line app written in Go.  In fact, after I wrote it, the good folks at WU sent me a *box* of WU-branded swag, which I thought was pretty nice of them.

That program became unusually successful.  It's in homebrew on the Mac, I get lots of mail about it from people all over the world, and I've generally kept it up to date.

For the last few weeks, I've been fixing bugs here and there and generally tightening things up.  I discovered what I think is a very small error in the JSON, and so I came here to see if I could report it.

What?!  What?!  The API is going away?!

I am completely devastated.

I'm not writing to complain.  I'm not in a boardroom at WU staring at spreadsheets trying to decide what is and is not viable for the business to succeed, and I very much want it to succeed.  Any site running continuously since 1995 is now part of internet history; it would be a shame to see it go because of bad financial decisions.

But I do want to say that I thought the WU API was fantastic: beautifully designed and easy to work with.  It was almost a model of how to do web services right.

So, what can I say?  I'm sinking into a deep depression here, but I want to take a moment to thank one and all for a really, really great tool.

Steve
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Thanks, Steve!!  So, so nice of you to say.

If you want to send the report to me, I can at least see if it's something that needs to be attended to now.

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The end of service email stated:
For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API. Stay tuned for more details as we build this out.

Where is that information?
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Apparently, someone decided developers shouldn't have API access anymore. New products start with the developers. If developers aren't familiar with the API it won't be suggested for new products.

The PWS owners are the source of all the data. However, they will only get 5 day forecast instead of the previous 10 day. There's no hourly forecast. Is this the way people are being thanked for all the PWS data?

As already mentioned, there are plenty of other companies that offer the data for low usage experimentation and development. In particular darksky.net offers 7 day forecast both daily and hourly in a json format. It took very little time to convert my programs and customers to that web site.

When I worked for IBM, people would have been fired if they suggested retiring an existing API before the new API was available and tested.
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Another alternative is openweathermap.org, which does support personal weather stations and output in both json and xml

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Okay Victoria we are inside 30 days to shutdown again and no replacement available for testing and development purposes.  Just some documentation.  I can't debug code with that.  Where's the beef?
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It's still being fattened in the shed.  Knives are being sharpened in preparation.

I'm dangerous with metaphors right about now.

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20 business days until the plug pull and no way to prepare scripts or sites.  Looks like the old bull being led to slaughter is Weather Underground...
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The best I can offer is the link to the documentation:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

We know this is not ideal.  I maintain that PWS API keys will be protected as we come up to the close date.  

Sorry for those who find my attempts to lighten the mood misplaced.  In the midst of 12-hour days, I have to what I can to keep smiling.

--Victoria
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Looks like it would have been simpler to leave our developer keys in place, move the commercial users to the IBM cloud, and connect the existing API interface to Weather Company data quietly and transparently in the server background.  I have used WU since long before there was an API and thought it the best weather website on the Internet.  I hope IBM doesn't kill it by further alienating the little PWS guys who feed it...
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We'd like to remind our PWS owners/contributors:
  • Your past data will always be available to you for viewing and download in a web browser on wunderground.com, just like it always has. 
  • If you are in the small minority of people who use the WU API and a corresponding WU API key to obtain data in .json format, here's what's happening:
- We'll open a registration page for you to get a new API key to get your data in .json format
- You'll sign up and get a new API key for the new API
- Once the registration page is open, we'll keep the old API and your old API key active for 2 weeks to allow transition time to your new key
 
We'll announce in the forum when the registration page opens.
Or, email victoria.gardner@ibm.com to receive an email notification once it's ready.
 
  • The new API will provide access to 
  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

The documentation for the new API is available here.

Victoria Gardner
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Hello Victoria:  In looking through the sample JSON within the Replacement APIs documentation,  it looks like the JSON has been collapsed so it can't be used to test feed reception software.  Could you post actual URLs of sample data for each of the replacement APIs so we can work with actual data feeds and test out our complete receiving stack?  
Thanks,
Jim
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Hello, I've been a paying WU API user for the last 3 years. I just found out yesterday they are shutting down the API. I had no idea. I never received an email notifying me that they were ending the service. I just received my final billing notice, and that is how I found out they were shutting down the service. 

For those who are paying for WU API, what services are you looking at? Are you planning on sticking with the Weather API or moving to another service provider?
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Brandon, I'm sorry our efforts to reach all our customers failed in your case.  We do appreciate your business.  I hope once you've had a chance to look at the plans from The Weather Company you'll consider them further.

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Since the Wunderground API is going away, does that mean that the Wunderground website and mobile apps are going to switch to using IBM's data instead of their own models and algorithms now?
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The Weather Underground's web and mobile apps have always used multiple models and incorporated information from multiple data sources.  Those platforms have largely already shifted to using IBM/The Weather Company data.  You also may have seen the recent post by Dr. Jeff Masters, a co-founder of WU, discussing a new IBM forecasting model on the blog:  https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/IBM-Introducing-Worlds-Highest-Resolution-Global-Weather-Forecasting-Model
 
Users of WU sites and apps should continue to see the same excellent weather forecasts they have relied on for years.
 
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How does Wunderground's forecast differ from The Weather Channel's nowadays?
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I'm not sure what sort of answer you're looking for here, Xd1936.  WU's forecast pages have always been much more detailed than The Weather Company's.  The two tend to have different audiences.  

If the forecast is accurate, why would they be different?

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I'm just curious if weather.com and wunderground.com have begun to show the same forecasts and conditions from IBM, or if there is still a separation.
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Well, there goes any chance Wunderground had at redeeming itself after the takeover.
Goodbye, cool website. You were awesome. Sorry to see so many hours of hard work and data collection get destroyed by greed.
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You never know, it might get even cooler!

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Oh, IBM is known for it's coolness. But not the good kind. Cool, as in ruthless and without heart.
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So when you said "developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API. Stay tuned for more details as we build this out" [1]... that's all out the window now, right?

1. https://web.archive.org/web/20181229135359/https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/e...

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As of this moment, we do not anticipate offering free access to the replacement API for anyone except PWS owner/uploaders.  

The Weather Company offers limited-time-length trial keys for their paid subscriptions.  For more information, see http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

We thank everyone who has been part of using Weather Underground as the old API comes to an end, and wish everyone the best in their future endeavors.

Victoria Gardner
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Is this short time evaluation access using the new API?  I'm looking to start testing code changes as soon as possible in case the new keys for data providers become available when I won't have time to work on things.
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Claude, I'm not quite sure I'm following you.

Yes, the short-term evaluative access is for The Weather Company's API.  But it's probably not true that you can fill out the demo form today and get called tomorrow and have the key set up the day after.  It is unlikely at this point that you'd get a demo key before the new API's gateway is up.

Does that answer the question?  I'm not sure it did, so don't hesitate to let me know if I missed the mark.

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Hi Victoria,

Yes, that answers my question.

So to be clear, there is no way we can test out the new API until the keys are made available?   I'm just looking for a way to test now while I have some free cycles to look at this.

Claude
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Correct.  And I am truly sorry for that answer!  I appreciate your desire to make things work!

--Victoria
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Victoria,

You wrote:
  • If you are in the small minority of people who use the WU API and a corresponding WU API key to obtain data in .json format, here's what's happening:
- We'll open a registration page for you to get a new API key to get your data in .json format
- You'll sign up and get a new API key for the new API
- Once the registration page is open, we'll keep the old API and your old API key active for 2 weeks to allow transition time to your new key
 
We'll announce in the forum when the registration page opens.
So I have been one of the minority who uploads PWS data as well as uses the API. When will a registration be open? You implied the old API would go away after two weeks once you register. If I don't register how long will the old API keys remain active? ;-)

How compatible will the old vs new json formats be? Hopefully the same or very close. Right now there was a ton of work involved to get he json handler to work  on a small embedded processor like the ESP8266. If changing the API key is all we need to do that would be cool but I fear the entire format returned will be considerably different and break all my devices.

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The documentation for the new API is here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

It is more than just putting a new key in an old call.  It is less than building from the ground up.  I don't really have an adequate way to characterize "compatible", as that seems to me to be subjective.  

This is why we released the documentation more than a month ago, here:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/weather-underground-api-update

Gateway information will be available soon.  If you don't sign up for a new key, the old key will go away.  More information on that when it becomes available.

Victoria Gardner
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That's enough info to know that I lost many hours of late night hacking. Now need to determine how bad the changes are and if it's even worth trying to fix.
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We left Weather Underground and went to http://aerisweather.com/ for our weather data. Great API,  great Sales process with plenty of free API calls for development.   Overall way better than what ever "clown town" is going on with IBM's handling of their new toy.    Three Thumbs down for IBM and their sales / deployment process.     Anyone interested in more info on http://aerisweather.com/ send me an email at andrew at tayloegray.com  
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I've been a paying customer for nearly 5 years...I didn't get an email, or a phone call. I am just finding out about this now. My API key started exceeding its new limits 2 days ago and my inbox is full of emails from my paid users complaining that our app is not working correctly because of this.  -Spencer Shepard
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We have been trying to get in touch with everyone actively since October; the API itself has been sending message with every payload since the first of the year.  When your subscription ended in January you were sent a direct email about the shut-down.  I'm sorry none of this got through.

Be that as it may, would you like me to have someone get in touch on Monday?  Please let me know what the best way to reach you is, as clearly none of the methods we've tried have worked.

Victoria Gardner
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I'm confused as to how I have been unreachable.  My email address and phone number are on my account.  They both work, I assure you.  I have searched my email and there is nothing. Judging by my experience and the other comments here, someone (not saying you), is either inept or not being honest about their contact attempts.  I don't examine my entire API responses as a matter of habit...that is not an appropriate way to notify customers. 

I've already filled out the contact form but I cannot wait until next week to fix this. I hope you can understand my frustration. 
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Spencer, I can understand.  It's frustrating for us, too, since I know how much time I personally spend trying to ensure this doesn't happen.

I've already taken steps to get you through the weekend.  Please get in touch with me and I can get you in touch with someone faster than just filling out the form.

Victoria Gardner
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I've removed my PWS from Wunderground. I will not supply data freely that is no longer being made publicly available freely. This is a shameless cash grab.
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John, I wish you well.

But I don't understand.  The PWS API is free.  Downloading your own data -- free.  

Victoria Gardner
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Hi Victoria, are you saying there is still an API we can use to download our own data?
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Yes.  Instructions for getting a key on the new API for PWS uploaders is in the first response to this post:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/end-of-feb-wu-api-update

Let me know if anything doesn't work or doesn't make sense.

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I have tried but not succeeded in finding documentation on how to use the new API key. It will probably take some code rewriting (of software that I've been using to provide weather data on the web, that I didn't originally write).
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Documentation is available here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

It is also linked from the page with the API key on Wunderground.

--Victoria
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Hi. I've now started working on converting my website to use the new API. I have a lot of calls to it and the codes are different so it will take me some time to convert everything! Anyway, thanks for continuing to provide a free service! My question is this: the temperature details are only given to the nearest whole number; can we have them to the nearest tenth of a degree as before please? Thanks very much. Steve.
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Hi, Steve.  Yes, the temperature is only an integer value.  I have told the developers about the desire for a decimal value.  

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Thanks Victoria! Is this the page for any other requests? I realise you are providing a free service so won’t be open to too much So I would limit any requests to anything on the old system that intrinsically sounds simple tonincorporate!
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Well, yes, this would be as good a place as any.  But keep in mind that this is part of a much, much larger system, and there are not endless resources for development.  Priorities are still focused on getting all PWS uploaders keys and completing bringing down the old API.  

--Victoria

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Thanks Victoria. I have finished my conversion now. A few other requests as well as the temperature as a decimal if they can be built into a subsequent release please!

1) Can windspeed/ wind gust etc. be decimal value as well please?
2) Under the old system there is a link to an animated gif which gives the rainfall radar images over the last half hour. Can something similar be provided?
3) Under the old system there was a visibility reading. Can this be provided?

Thanks very much!

Steve
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Hi, Steve!

Can you explain to me the need for such precision in the wind speed?

I will pass along the other two, but I don't think add-ons are likely.

Victoria Gardner
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Thanks Victoria,

The windspeed is uploaded as a decimal and under the current system is displayed as such. I can see it is viewable as such on the wunderground webpage, so I was thinking that it could be just kept as a decimal rather than converted to an integer as it won't use any more storage on your servers? Agree though that this is less valuable than the decimal for temperature readings.

Steve
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Keep in mind the ingestion of data from PWSs is separate from the dispersal of data via the API.  So it's not a matter of "keeping" it one way or the other.  And the new PWS API is part of a much larger API system.  

The thinking that went into the integer vs decimal was probably less about space considerations than about creating false precision.  But I'll see what the developers say.

--Victoria
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3 thing are realy important for me.

1 decimals for temperature 
2 live - realtime updates on the PWS page.
3 a complete metric page in stead of parts in metric parts in imperial.

Victoria please bring them back!
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DJTH, I think I can give you at least some good news!

The more responsive updating on the web should be back up next week.  

Decimals (additional precision) should be here by the end of the month.  I'm not sure what the ETA will be for them to be deployed to the web site.

The programmers are busily trying to get all the unit issues sorted out.  If you have specific comments about them, the best place to put them is the web site's feedback, https://feedback.weather.com/?b_id=17298.  

Victoria Gardner
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Any progress with the decimal temperature?
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@ Stece Tijou
where do you find the new free API ?
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The information can be found in the first response to this post:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/end-of-feb-wu-api-update

Victoria Gardner
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Hi Victoria,

I seem to be seeing different EOL dates tossed around, and I have yet to be contacted by WU/WC via e-mail (as I sort of thought I would be - that's what the original notice says). Can you tell me what day the old API service will actually stop dead in its tracks? Is it March 22nd? Thank You.
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Hi, Paul!

All the email efforts went out in late 2018.  I'm sorry yours did not manage to find you!

Most of the keys have already been turned off.  Keys that are associated with a personal weather station will be kept on until 3-22, at which point they will also be turned off.  

Hope that helps!

Victoria Gardner
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I followed that link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

I see an example URI for fetching forecast by postal code:
https://api.weather.com/v3/wx/forecast/daily/7day?postalKey=<postalKey>&units=<units>&language=<language>&format=<format>&apiKey=yourApiKey

If I replace that with the newly issued API key that I got by following links (as a longtime PWS owner uploading to wunderground.com), I get:

Access DeniedYou don't have permission to access "http://api.weather.com/v3/wx/forecast/daily/7day?"; on this server.
Reference #18.97afedcc.1554820001.3fb0a988
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(The apiKey I have is valid, but has no permission granted.) How can I found out which endpoints I can use? Tried the 5day, and that one works. This looks like an unneeded customer-service nightmare that could've been remedied by adding more IBM Cloud instances to the API infrastructure.
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It does *not* look like I have access to similar capabilities as the longstanding wunderground API. Can you help make them available?
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Right, you have access to 5-day forecasts, not 7-day.  

The PWS API has access to the following:

• Current observations from the PWS network
• 5 day daily forecast
• PWS historical data
• PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
• Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

The PWS API is not a re-creation of the old WU API.  You may want to look through some of the newer threads in the Forum, where there have been extensive discussions of the new API.

Access to a fully developed, enterprise-grade API is available by paid subscription through The Weather Company, http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

--Victoria
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Victoria, We are a small farm and rely on the weather and forecasts from our station.  This began to work poorly and not really connect recently.  What options do people have that aren't developers.  I'm not interested in providing IBM free data with no accurite information in return.  General weather 10 miles away that IBM provides is of no help to me.  We have all of our historical data, so we don't need you for that.  Is there anything you can offer to Acurite customers or should we just scrap the weather station and buy a new one that can work with Aeris/PWS?  
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Kathryn, I'm not completely clear about what you're asking here.  It sounds like you have a PWS that has stopped working because of Acurite's deprecation. 

There is no longer any sort of "developer" level status -- only PWS uploaders have access to the PWS API. 

If the only thing you want is PWS data, it sounds as is you need to have your own station.  The Weather Company can provide data from the PWS network, but if there are no PWSs close enough to be of use, that won't help. 

In the end, only you can decide what is right in your situation.

--Victoria
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You rotten scumbags ruined it
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Well now this has been nothing more than a money grabbing exercise I will be moving all my code/API over to another service...

We used WU for a lot of school projects but now sorry in this day and age where money can be in short supply we have to look else where which means leaving WU for a better provider.  Such a shame as this also means the children we teach then move to the other service  as do those that follow on later when they start their projects...

SO this move has a domino effect which looses you many more potential users in the future and one that will hurt your business model later down the line....   Well at least this lesson can be taught to the next generation of students as a model of HOW NOT TO DO THINGS....


  
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We wish you well, Andrew.

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Victoria, I only see my old keys and do not see any section fro the new API keys. If I select a new key does that only generate a key for the new API or the old one? I have several devices I need to update and unfortunately some third party devices that have not ported to the new API. I may be able to fix the ones I control but two of my devices are likley going to go dark after the switch.
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Hi, JN.

If you are now uploading data to the WU PWS network, follow the instructions in the first response to this post:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/end-of-feb-wu-api-update

If you have trouble with that, please email me directly, victoria.gardner@ibm.com, and let me know what problems you encounter so I can help.

Victoria Gardner
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This must be a cruel joke? I go to the link and I add my password and such and it has no API key info. Just shows member settings after logged in. No API link. I have my data actively still being uploaded for my back yard weather station so I should be eligible for a free key. I did find the old page for the old API keys and I could regenerate a key but looks like it's still the old API.

Your link to the new API above does not work. I'm clueless how to request one. Good news is my solar panel data that is uploaded to PVOutput has modified their code to work with the new API. I just need to now enable the stupid thing witha  new key. Your not making this easy... HELP!
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Update - I also had to use Chrome and then the link would eventually work. Firefox was not working. I got a new API key but I have zero confidence it's going to work. PVOutput does seem to accept it as the new key but the return formatted data is pathetic. May just bite the bullet and export my data to OpenWeathermaps and get over this. None of my other devices will work after the 22nd. Thanks for nothing IBM.

BTW - The data returned is acceptable for PVOutput but my other apps are still broken. OpenSprinkler decided to drop WU altogether and uses OpenWeatherMaps now. If I want my sprinkler to use my backyard data for calculating run times then I need to export the data to OpenWeatherMaps. My Davis Vantage Vue does not offer that as an option. Will need to run something like WeeWx to grab the data and upload it.
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JN, if there's anything I can do to help, please do let me know.

Victoria Gardner
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I just want a simple definitive answer (yes/no) to the following question:

Will IBM/WU be providing a free service to non-commercial, low volume (less than <100 access per day) users who do not possess PWS devices and therefore do not upload weather data; for their own Home Automation needs? 
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No, as of this moment, we do not anticipate offering free access to the replacement API for anyone except PWS owner/uploaders.  

Victoria Gardner
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hi, my home "pi based" info mirror had stop displaying the weather. on investigation you have pulled the Api with no notice or email.. i was on a developers account. is it a case of tough luck or is their something else available for a free low access service?

thanks stuart
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Hi, Stuart!

We spent a lot of time and effort trying to get hold of everyone, so I'm sorry we didn't succeed in your case.  The API itself has actually been sending out a message with every payload since the beginning of the year, in addition to everything else.

As of this moment, we do not anticipate offering free access to the replacement API for anyone except PWS owner/uploaders.  

The Weather Company offers limited-time-length trial keys for their paid subscriptions.  For more information, see http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

We again thank everyone who has been part of using Weather Underground as the old API comes to an end, and wish everyone the best in their future endeavors.

Victoria Gardner
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So, IBM has decided to hold the public's data hostage and is demanding a ransom in the form of an API subscription.  Such a shame.
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IBM stingy persons!
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Sorry you feel that way, Doogie and Nury.  People who are uploading data to the network have access to a free PWS API.  

It includes: 
• Current observations from the PWS network
• 5 day daily forecast
• PWS historical data
• PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
• Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

PWS holders who want to get an API key should follow the instructions here:  https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/weatherapi/topics/turning-off-pws-associated-keys

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I had an API key, and it suddenly disappeared, so my connected apps stopped working.  I generated a new one, as instructed, but it's way too long for the apps to use, so I have to wait for an update.  Why the change when it was working perfectly fine?
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Because it wasn't working perfectly fine, Null Null.  Perhaps what you should be asking is why the apps you use are taking so long to update?  It's been close to a year that we've been pushing out the information that the API was going down.  

--Victoria
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Yet it worked until a few days ago.  I know they need to update, but the only information I'd seen published was "we're not issuing new free API keys".  I already had one, so it didn't concern me.  I never saw anything saying existing API keys will be removed.  All I see now is that the API program has been retired and you don't know what will replace it, yet there is button to generate a new key to replace the one you took away.  It doesn't make sense.
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Here is a summary of all the information about the API's retirement.  

The Weather Underground API has been retired.  Keys have been closed down on a rolling basis since February 15, 2019.  Notices were posted on the API data pages, through emails, and through payload information send out by the API itself starting in May 2018.

It has been replaced for paying subscribers by The Weather Company's API.  Packages for that enterprise-grade platform and a form to fill out for contact by a sales rep may be found here:  http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

For PWS owner/uploaders, there is free access to an API that provides a subset of The Weather Channel's APIs.  It provides:
  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

PWS uploaders can generate their new key by logging into their Weather Underground account and looking under "API keys" in "Member Settings".  Documentation for that API may be found here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCnKXI9xnoMGRRzOL1xPCBihNV2rOet08qpE_gArAY/edit

The new key does not really "replace" the old one, because the new key does not work in old API calls, just as the old API key does not work in new API calls.  The new API also does not use XML calls, only JSON calls.

We do not anticipate offering free, ongoing “developer” level keys to The Weather Company’s API.  

If you have additional questions, please let me know.

Victoria Gardner
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So here's the thing. Many of our applications were likely written by someone else. That's the great thing about software communities where people can share what they have developed.

One of the applications I use to monitor my PWS was originally developed as a DIY Weather IoT device that I had modified to do what I needed.  I'm looking to modifying that program as it's written in C/C++ so I just need to replace the API calls and parse JSON instead of XML.

However the other application that I use is a plugin for the Logitech Media Server and I have a couple of the original SqueezeBox 3 media players from Slim Devices before they were bought out by Logitech.  I no longer use these devices to play music but it has a really cool Fluorescent display that looks like the digital dashboard in cars.  The plugin is called SuperDateTime and it had been modified to pull data from WU using the old API.

Unfortunately none of the developers of this plugin appear to be interested in updating the package as most users have since moved on to using other packages that work with other weather data providers.  On some of the forums that I have looked at they were full of predictions of doom and gloom when it was announced that the original WU API was going to be retired.  I've been posting the latest info about the new WU API and a couple of us have offered to donate to have the packages updated but so far there have been no takers.  I suspect it might be because there is no free access for developers. 

I think it would be helpful if non PWS owners could request a developer key that would only be good for a few months before it would expire.

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I understand what you're saying, Claude, but it's not going to happen, not in the short term anyway.  

--Victoria
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The old API gave access to 5-day hourly forecast. Please restore at least that level of access to us. (Daily is not sufficient.)
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@Victoria, you mentioned above that access to data send by PWS owners will always be available to download.  I am wondering where in the UI this option is as I cannot seem to see it.  Thanks 
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You can download your data through the API, or you can, as another user suggested, cut and paste the table displayed directly into Excel.

--Victoria
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Thanks but I cannot find which API call provides access to my data.  They all seem to be limited to 5 minute data and rounded values.  Maybe I am looking in the wrong place so if I can get the link it would be great.  
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AB, please email me.  This will be much quicker if I can give you information that is specific to your situation, which may be private.  There are too many possibilities for me to try to answer this in general beyond what I already have.

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Hi Victoria, nothing private, or complex for that matter.  Really all I want is to be able to access to the equivalent of the raw data I upload.  The API linked below (history/all), and all the others I have tried, seem to limit the data points to 5 minute intervals and summarise much of the data to the nearest whole number.  My station has been uploading to the service a lot faster than at 5 minute intervals and at a higher precision level.  I foolishly have not been archiving it locally as the station I bought has basic features and only provides the option to save history on the WU service, while I was not real happy to discover this when the unit arrived I figured the data was safe in the cloud.  A deficiency I am in the throws of correcting now.

I'm of the opinion that this is akin to Facebook deciding suddenly only to let you see black and white thumbnails of all the photos you uploaded, yet still let their business customers gain from all the benefits from the full resolution / colour pictures.  I don't mind being the product if I am using a service at no cost, but I don't expect to be taken advantage of at the same time.
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I'm trying to use the PWS Historical API to get some of my data, but it appears to be limited to querying only 1 day at a time (not a range), and the results are rounded to the nearest whole degree on temperature readings. How can I query a date range without making scads of individual api calls?
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Move the slider to monthly, scroll down to daily observations, copy and paste into an Excel sheet (or similar).  Cut out the rows you care about/delete the ones you don't.

Or:  purchase a subscription to The Weather Company's API and have access to what you want that way.  

The custom date ranges are gone for now.

--Victoria
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So I've been freely contributing MY data for 4+ years, and now I need to purchase a subscription. Classy move IBM.
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No, that's not what I said.  And we should note that this is NOT for a PWS.  The owner of a PWS has other options via their dashboard.  

--Victoria
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I am the PWS owner, and I have an API key that I am trying to query historical data on my PWS since I can no longer download a CSV. I want to query a date range through the API.
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History API, see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8jbqfAk0tfZS5P7hYnar1JiitM0gQZB-clxDfG3aD0/edit#

use /all variant, throw away what you don't want.  That gets you everything in one call.  You can use the daily/hourly variants with multiple calls, too, but I am assuming you don't want to burn up lots of calls.

--Victoria
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I have been experimenting with the /all variant, but I'm still restricted to one day. It looks like I'm going to have to write a script to loop through each day and append into one big JSON for the range(s) I'm needing.
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Yea try reading your closest airport and see what you get, Its been totally disabled

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When will the mess on the PWS personal page be cleaned up? Metric is partly metric no decimals for temperature (in Metric realy a MUST!!!!). When will you return to realtime displaying current conditions? And all boxes are to big, I must scroll to see all information. PLease fix it now!
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I dont expect a fix we no longer get free access with no ads also. The MADIS injest system no longer works so we dont see the stations the NWS is using.  I feel it may go the way of weatherbug. I now see why ambentweather created there own weather site.
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PWS uploaders are still getting free no-ads access on the web.  The mobile no-ads are separate from the web no-ads right now; we are working towards re-unifying them in the future.  If you are having a problem with logins and seeing ads on the web, please let us know through the feedback form, https://feedback.weather.com/customer/portal/emails/new?b_id=17298.  If you don't get a fast-enough response, you can poke me with your case number.

--Victoria
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I have not been keeping up with the replies. But I would just like to say that I now understand why the old API was killed off because the new API doesn't do everything the old one did. If you had just told us you were dropping support for the items you removed it would have been better. You didn't just change the API you dropped support for everything but the station data.

I write software that allows the PWS station to cross post.
#1 we can no longer look up our station and get the closest airport and city. I was using that to setup my program for the PWS owner. Now he has to manual do that.
#2 We can no longer get data from the airport only PWS stations. I used airport pres to auto correct a users station data. I had to switch to the madis API to get the local airport data.
#3 We can no longer get a forecast. Where is the forecasts API
#4 We can no longer get a customized radar/satellite maps.

Its none of my business what you want to drop but you pretended the new API would just be a format change its not. It is not a replacement it is another separate PWS data access service.
It does not do what the original did.

I would request that you ask for the airports to be added to the new API this makes no sense that they are not allowed to be accessed.





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Forecast data is there.  See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Zte7-SdOjnzBttb1-Y9e0Wgl0_3tah9dSwXUyEA3-c/edit

The METAR (airport) stations are in a separate group of APIs in The Weather Company's APIs.  It would be non-trivial to include them in the PWS API.

For everything else, yes, this is an accurate reflection of things that are not included.  They exist in The Weather Company's APIs, for those who want them.  You can request a sales representative to contact you about those by filling out the form here:  http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

Thank you for using Weather Underground!

--Victoria
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Joe Shupienis

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Once again, the Corporatization of a public service has taken place. America is sure getting greater by the minute. For the 0.1%