End of Service for the Weather Underground API

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We’re contacting you today to tell you about some upcoming changes to the Weather Underground (WU) API and what these changes mean for you.

The WU API has been around since 2010 to help you develop apps and websites as well as manage your Personal Weather Station data.  During that time, we’ve watched you build amazing products and visualize weather data with creativity and purpose.

Over the years, our infrastructure has struggled to keep up with the growing numbers of users coming to us for API data. We realized we needed to make changes to ensure the highest level of quality, performance and uptime for our API users.

As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to retire the Weather Underground API. The Weather Company, which acquired WU back in 2012, offers a powerful suite of enterprise-grade APIs that might be better suited to meet your scale and performance needs while offering a broader range of weather data. You can see these products here.

Here’s what you need to know going forward:

  • Your subscriptions, and therefore access, will continue to work through 12/31/2018.

  • If you are a paying WU API customer, you will receive a call from a representative from The Weather Company, and IBM business, to discuss transition options to other API services. If you’d like to have these conversations sooner, contact us.

  • If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.

  • The WU Forum will continue to be the best place to connect, keep you informed, share your feedback and get your questions answered as we go through this process.


We are grateful for your commitment to Weather Underground and appreciate your understanding and support as we work through this process. These changes will allow us to continually improve our services and develop new features to keep WU a thriving place for you for many years to come.

Thanks for being part of the community.

Sincerely,

The WU Team
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"If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized."

Personally I am not worried about getting history of my data I send to you. it is written to SQL on my site as well.

I think most PWS users that run a site would like to know if you could confirm there will be a forecast offered via API to PWS Owners or not?
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Sorry you feel that way, Kirk.  All the best in your future endeavors.

--Victoria
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Victoria it looks like you are part of the problem
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Thanks, Pete.  I'll keep that in mind.

--Victoria
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Hi, my subscription changeover worked fine. I just moved to South Carolina. My station is KSCLONGS15. The coordinates are correct. I’m at about 30 feet in elevation. My WS-1200 shows the correct pressure. Wonderground and the PWS app show pressure almost 0.50” higher. When I go to wunderground and find my station settings it shows my elevation of over -107000! I’ve emailed twice under customer support and no one answers back. Help please
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Wow!  That's some trick, negative elevation.  I'll get the report in now.

It's worth noting that the elevation seems to have been incorrect for some time.  I see the same incorrect elevation in the old WU record as well.  

--Victoria
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Yeah, this is a ridiculously short amount of time for developers to switch. Developers should have several months to actually work with the new API before the old one is cut off (especially since new API's will probably be buggy - developers working with it early can help find those). And we don't even have API documentation yet to know if the data we actually want to get to is included or not. Before they said that access to an individual station's data was not going to be part of the new API, but now the info page for the Core plan kind of sounds like it will after all, but it's not clearly stated for sure. Maybe it's just talking about a location rather than an individual station. Weather buffs want THEIR station's data presented to them, not just for the general location.
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Amen. What kind of service announces a pulling of the plug on services in 3 months, with zero documentation or information about a replacement that we're supposed to switch to?
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As a PWS owner providing you data for free, you are just going to cut me off.  Maybe I should stop providing you data.  You need to take care of those providing you that free crowd sourced data.

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If you are a Personal Weather Station owner, you will receive more information about our plan to offer free access to the data you provide to Weather Underground. We’ll reach out once that plan has been finalized.
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So does that mean we continue sending you our data at the current rate/interval but will be restricted in our own retrieval rate? 100 calls a day is not going to cut it and if your company thinks we will pay (an undisclosed amount) Then it's time to move on again. I sense the continued way these responses are answered is intened to leave us in the dark as long as possible.

Andy
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Andy, we anticipate 1000 calls/day and 30 calls/min as the upper limits with the new API for PWS uploaders, once it's ready.  

Victoria Gardner
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Victoria... you are failing a Turing test. Are you a human or an AI?
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I am the author of the popular WU-forecast.php script which allows personal weather website owners to display the WU forecast for their area using the WU API key.  The script is in use on several hundred websites around the world.  With the upcoming discontinue of the WU API, these sites (most of them WU data contributors) will not have a forecast to display.

Will there be a free API key for the Weather.com API for low-volume use offered so I can rewrite the script for the new API?  If not, I will likely have to discontinue the WU-forecast.php script (making several hundred current users quite peeved, in addition to my strong disappointment that WU continues to shed functions that have long been supported by your data contributors).
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I have several PWS deployed in Guatemala, and had advocated in Latin America about WU platform for years as a way to make weather data available to more users specially in Latin America where met services lack this kind of information.

I convinced a lot of people in the region to deploy PWS's because I noted that the forecast got better after some days of data being sent, I think that the PWS network that all wx enthusiasts like us helped to built is one of the big assets that made WU appealing to TWC and then to IBM.

I understand business decisions, but as many has mentioned before, as a PWS network user and WU site user I feel all this was abandoned since these Corporate changes. The crowdsourcing model made you and all users had access to realtime data in remote location like yours and like ours in Latin America.

I just want a fair treat with a forecast API for users that has contributed to this platform (many of us for years when WU was a great startup). Just imagine how many hours in development has been invested like what saratogaWX has mentioned that must start again from 0 or loose what accomplished.

BTW, I came here via a Google search, did not received an email, all of you fellow PWS owners receive something ?
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As Tim Roche notes above, personal weather station (PWS) owners will not be impacted.  They will have access through the keys they already have to their own data, and probably a limited range of short-term forecasts. 

We're trying to get to the point of rolling out information about this publicly, it's just not quite ready yet.  More to come!

Victoria Gardner
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What about those PWS owner that need a key in the first place?
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A key is one method of gating (permitting access to) an API -- there are others.  We're working on making sure that issue is addressed.

Victoria Gardner
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Yea I use the API in my relay program to CWOP to pull airport and GPS data from WU on install. I was sent no info on this and found it by accident. I dont use forcast users requested a API and entered it in the program to pull there station status. Everything will have to be rewritten with out notice.

Also anyone know why we are nolonger allowed to delete bad data from out station page....


I do have a wepage that pulls data but rather then rewrite the code I might as well create a script to post data to my website direct. If openweather didnt have a broken unusable API I would use it.
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Hi, Tmaster.  

We have done everything we can to reach API keyholders.  I'm sorry we were unable to reach you.

The API will continue to function past the end of the year for PWS owner/uploaders until the new API for PWS owner/uploaders is ready.  If you want a peak at the documentation for the new API, you can look here.

Sincerely,

Victoria Gardner
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Useless. Like everything else IBM touches, WU is now broken.
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I'm sorry you feel that way, Robert.  WU isn't broken, but like all things on the Internet, it is bound to change. 
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Indeed...  Change for better or worse?  Kind of like the NEXRAD page on WU.  Doppler Radar Detected Storms list has not worked for over a year and a half and states, "There are no Doppler radar detected storms for (anywhere) at this time."  Perhaps a dangerous statement, as anyone seeing this may not realize they are in the path of impending, potentially disastrous weather.  Customer service has not responded to this issue in a few months.  I think broken may be well described.

https://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=ffc&lat=34.143436&lon=-84.569412&labe...
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We are a week into November folks.  If I am going to rewrite scripts or change APIs I would like to know what I am up against so I can keep my sites running.  It is past time to let us PWS owners know the specifics and start testing the replacement if there is one.
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I was told "literally any day now" 2 weeks ago. I'm fairly confident we are not going to receive any new information.
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My googling led me here....I'm just a stupid mechanical engineer, stumbling around, trying to find an answer to the question....Does WU still supply weather data to IFTTT?, because none of the applets that use WU, as the service, are working?...Thank you for your help.
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URL?  Happy to try to help, but it does not sound like something that we had anything to do with.  Nothing has been cut off, to my knowledge.

Victoria Gardner
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Now that there's only a couple of weeks left before deprecation, you have clearly not given us enough time to migrate to your supposedly-coming new API. I've begun moving all of my Wunderground API queries to the new NWS GeoJSON API. If you're in the United States, it's worth a look.

https://forecast-v3.weather.gov/documentation

Dark Sky also has some nice features, as others have mentioned.

https://darksky.net/dev

Wunderground, you should be embarrassed by the timeframe you've chosen for this and how it's all being handled.
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We're going to have to leave the WordPress discussion aside for the moment, it's being discussed over my head.  I'll let you know when there's an answer.

In terms of developers, large and small, it's pay as you go, or shift to another platform.  I know a lot of people are going to be unhappy with that answer, but there it is.  There will no longer be a WU "developer key".  

If you're building out apps for the future, you will probably want to consider the price point of your users.  If they're likely to have the volume and desire the high quality data of The Weather Company, then build around that.  If they are likely to want free access only, you're going to need to look for another platform.  

I think the short answer is, yes, you're going to have to rewrite your app.  The Weather Underground API ecosystem as it has been known will be ending for all but PWS owners who upload their data to WU and subscription customers who have contracts to transition to TWC data.  And even they will eventually be shifting.

Will your application continue to work?  If the application is used by a PWS owner who already has a key, it will work for a while, until the transition to the new API is complete, at which point it will also stop working.  The calls to the new API may be similar, but they will not be identical.  And poor old legacy WU API will be able to head home to watch TV.

Victoria
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WU website and mobile apps are outside my domain.  I can go down the hall to metops and tell them you don't like the forecasts, however.
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Thanks Victoria.
It's finally an answer that seems clear to me. Even if it saddens me ...

I wish you good luck for the future.
Pierre

(and of course, I look forward to your reply regarding the WordPress plugin)
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I wish you all the best as well, Pierre!
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We have an answer on the WordPress plug-in:  Its key will also be deactivated.  If its developer wants to develop it on The Weather Company's platform, then they'll need to get a new key on that API.
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What a shitshow, i.e. a situation characterized by a growing number of unsatisfied users, a company that does no communicate openly, and a representative that is unable to commit to binding statements. Six months have gone by since the initial announcement to end the service, and still no information about the upcoming transition provided to the PWS owners. The resulting exasperation will not magically go away. 
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It actually WILL go away. Once all the disgruntled users that helped them with their data to get where they are are all pissed off to the point that they stop wondering if wunderground/weather.com/ibm will ever be usable again, stop submitting them their data and take away the base that made wunderground.
Pretty easy - simply stop supporting the joke that they play here by stopping to send them your data. Let's see who needs whom...
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Typical behavior of a large American corporation. Nobody in charge has a clue.
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I'm sure this may be considered unpopular, but while it's a PITA to have to figure out new code and access or hope your favorite project is going to adapt, at least we were warned and we're being given a path to move to at no cost and access up until we do.  And they are responding and doing so respectfully.  Documents exist and guidelines.  Tangible things instead of promises.

Now compare this with how Logitech handled closing off access to a local device API without warning, through a silent firmware update that mentioned nothing about it in the release notes!  Then they double down by saying it affected a 'few users'.  People are calling for a pitchfork raid.  And only terse replies that they don't plan on reversing the decision. Period. No interaction. 

In comparison, WU seems to have a much firmer grasp on their own API situation.  Victoria deserves a little more respect as the point person who has to deal with this; a decision she may or may not have had any material input on.  I think she's doing a yeoman's task and doing an admirable job given the circumstances.
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I have seen no explanation if why its necessary to change the api other than bad programers. No reasion i can see why the old api cant keep working with quotos changed.... so why cant it? Only reason i can see it they want to kick off all existing accounts. If someone wants to explain why the api needs to he changed and why the new one cant be backward compatable i would like to see that.
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As I answered elsewhere, the old WU API is being closed for reasons that were determined long ago.  Backward compatible API are not trivial to build.  Arguing about these sorts of details now will not change anything.  

I'm sorry that this change is difficult, but the change is necessary.  We appreciate that customers going through this transition with us are also struggling.  Thank you for your continued efforts!

Victoria Gardner
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I have read this entire forum thread today and my personal end-of-year bottom line on the topic is that I hope this will be archived somewhere forever as a prime example of what becomes of once honorable community projects in the hands of a big corporation.

Extra Kudos to Victoria for her heroic PR, personally taking most of the blame for her employer month after month while IBM is apparently running this once-great community project exactly by the big-business books:
Suck value out of the asset as fast as you can, smile to the public in front of you while on the backside you shit on those who built your property and can't stop you ruining it.
In Victorias shoes, I would have quit long ago or got very sick from bad consciousness. I hope she earns at least a very substantial income for holding her head out.

I have moved all my customer's API business away from WU and switched them over to OWM.

Happy new year!