Weather Underground API Changes

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Weather Underground as part of The Weather Company, an IBM business, now offers a series of Data Packages that tap into the breadth and depth of weather data to provide current and forecast conditions, seasonal and sub-seasonal forecasts, lifestyle indices, severe weather and historical weather data. With The Weather Company, you can take advantage of these packages quickly and easily, accessing weather data APIs via the Cloud. The packages are curated to give you only what you need in the format you need it. You can Incorporate weather data into your applications or  combine business data with weather data such as alerts and notifications, forecast data, and weather imagery, then apply advanced analytics to build the foundation for informed enterprise decision-making. Learn more 

To improve our services and enhance the relationship with our users, we will no longer  provide free weather API keys as part of our program.  If you have been directed to download our Weather Underground free API key by a third party provider, please contact your vendor for resolution.
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Tim Roche, Official Rep

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Jared Steckel

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So there is no way for an individual to get a key anymore?
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Thomas Pagano

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Will existing free keys still work? And if not, when will they be turned off?
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Tim Roche, Official Rep

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for the time being, free keys will continue to work.  We will update you if that changes.
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Thomas Pagano

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Thanks... It would be nice to know if there are plans for the existing keys to go away, and get some advance notice, just so people have a chance to make alternative arrangements.
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Michael Balsillie

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Will users who connect a personal weather station to your system have access to an API? These people are providing you with the data you need to run your business at their own expense, paying for weather station equipment from their own pocket. I should hope that anyone who registers a PWS is given an API key for free.

Asking because I'm currently looking at purchasing a station from Ambient Weather.
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Pierre Lannoy

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@Matt : haha, obviously not. CVS is crap...
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guy

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No surprise here with WU, and I don't believe they care about the PWS owners.  Hey, don't want to send it, no problem, they will just "take" it from those that also send it up to cwop.  The only thing they would lose would be the rapid updates.
Looked at the Aeris Weather and their site looks good, just nothing for PWS from what I saw.  If I can't find another site, I think I just dump all the uploads and setup my own page.  Not what I want to do, but I've been abused by WU far too long now!
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James Anding

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Yes, Aeris does support PWS's.
All you have to do is upload your weather to https://www.pwsweather.com/ instead of WU. The also have API's to get your personal weather data. I use it. Works great. I can put my weather directly into my web page using their API.
I highly recommend Aeris. BT W, I Am Not affiliated in any way with them except being a user.
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guy

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THANKS for the info!Just setup an account with Aeris and started sending data!  KPAMINER2 will be gone on 5/24 from WU!  Enough is enough! And if you think you can still get the data from CWOP/APRS...turning that off too.
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guy

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Well WU, you won the battle, for now.  Webcam gone, station gone, just what you wanted.  Sad to see what WU has become, and unfortunately, you have not learned from your mistakes in the past, so your doomed to continue to make them.  It's all about greed or shortsightedness.  You have had many PWS owners provide you data for years, that you profited from.  But now you treat them like dirt.  I don't know for certain, but I bet, no PWS owner ever got a check or even a thank you from you for providing that free data to you.  The PWS owners invested their time and dollars into purchasing, setting up and maintaining their weather stations for you, to make WU better, and to help allow you to be profitable.  It's just one thing after another that you take away from the station owner.  So what's on the chopping block next.  Is that you continue to let services fail like you are now..hoping more go away.  Or do you finally decide to turn of the web cams?  How about the free weather/no ads subscriptions you provided to owners in the past?  I'm sure someone already has that on the list.  Like other companies that lose focus of their business, their doomed to fail. or parts of the business that still have value will be sold off.  So congratulations are in order!  You have successfully pushed another PWS owner out the door!
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Stefan Cojocaru

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How about fixing the obvious bugs the people are complaining about in the problems section, instead of asking for money for a service that will fail because of these bugs?
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Murphy

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I'd love to know if they're even aware of the problem. Cause we've seen zero WU responses on any of those threads. And my own email and support ticket have gone unanswered.
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Thomas Fuchs

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Same like Murphy. We're paying them $600 a month and no reaction at all, since 10 days.

It's sad in which direction this is heading, the service and quality was a lot better some years ago when we first started using WU. Currently I'm checking out aerisweather.com as an alternative.
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Stefan Cojocaru

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They must be aware. The forum is blowing up with problems and bugs. They just don't care
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Pierre Lannoy

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Hello Tim.
Just to understand more clearly what you said: is it impacting PWS owners who push data to your services and want to access their own (current) data via your apis?

Thanks.
Pierre
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Iulian Luca

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Hi, @Tim Roche - my PWS is still on your system and provide data... this is not good. I already delete it from my dashboard. You are braking my privacy now. Please advise!
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Roger Grant

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According to WU the delete option only works if you haven’t uploaded any data. Once you’ve uploaded data you can stop sending them data and eventually your station will not show up on maps or search results but if you go directly to your pws page it will still be there. Once you’ve sent them data they own it and can do whatever they like.
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Iulian Luca

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Hi, Roger. Thanks. I don’t care what they do with my PWS old data, I’m talking about my PWS showing on WU map and keep sending them data. I delete it from my account, but it is still available with high and low temps on WU map.
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Roger Grant

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If they are showing new, current, data it’s because you are sending it to them. WU cannot pull data from your weather station. You need to go into your software and delete the upload to WU.
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Iulian Luca

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True, Roger, but not exactly. I deleted my station from WU system and this way my station WU upload service should “knock” on a closed door, right? Then why you, WU, give me the option to delete my station, but in the background you’re keeping the door open for data? It doesn’t make sense to me...
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If or when my API key stops working, I will stop sending WU weather data, as there would no longer be any benefit for me to do so.
 
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Iulian Luca

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I already did that. Deleted my PWS and I got no confirmation asking me if I'm sure about that...
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Jared Steckel

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The responses have plainly laid out that they commercialized the service. Period.  This archaic business model is now free to go ahead and fold up.
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Iulian Luca

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This is a part of their current (IBM) business approach with some important "players" that make products with big investments and look to kill competition that relies on the WU service so they can be the only one that uses the WU users PWS network. This is all about money. IBM currently advertise about some hyper-local weather <- this is simply from our PWS they are using the data from... this is the perfect opportunity...
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PaNiC

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Guess when you reach a position of strength with lots of vendor support and users you show how small you really are.
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Jim Boyd

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Looks like its time to totally cut ties with WU...
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Matt Graham

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I understand things can’t be free. Testing things with an app without paying is avoiding it the cost of doing business. What I am upset with is the fact that PWS owners that upload to WU have get no credit in terms of having a preferential API that they can use for personal, non-profit uses. My use is simply to optimize my RainMachine forecast for irrigation needs of my lawn. There are no reliable data sources so my Davis station locally feeds RainMachine with my uploaded data. At the end of the day it would be nice for WU to be more transparent. What are the API numbers? How many free APIs? Maybe that would explain to the users that their model is not working.
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John Wade

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It won't matter because people will just scrape the data anyway so what's the point of charging for it?  Answer: NONE.
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Thomas Fuchs

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Are those ongoing changes the reason why every other post in this forum as well as numerous emails to help@wunderground.com are unanswered? I'd really like to know if they are just ignored or not being noticed at all. Is help@wunderground.com the right address to request help for API issues?
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From the Rep.
"The hope was that the data download from the site, would be a sufficient replacement."

Seriously?
You thought that after months and years of users writing java script web sites using an API and taking that ability away and giving them the ability to download data from a web page would sufficient. 

You're either a  liar or stupid.
I haven't decided which.
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James Polles

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If someone is looking to purchase an API Key at this time what is the best way to go about doing this, the link provided seems to only take you to a place where you can provide contact information for a demo.  I'd like to reach out to sales rep to get pricing for business use on a key.
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Jared Steckel

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I submitted a request via the form and got a call today from The Weather Company.  Date Core package (the smallest one) is $850/mo.
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Stefan Cojocaru

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I laughed so hard.
I am literally writing code to switch to Aeris right now.
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jrsa

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And did they give you any feedback about the usage of the - still functional - free API keys WU provided until this point? (e.g. should we expect any restrictions soon?)
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John P. Hoke

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Wow! $850 a month to access my PWS data ... what a bargain and twice the price - (sarcasm)

So- you (WU) are monetizing our data, which we are fine with, but you want us to PAY YOU for the luxury of being screwed?
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Daniel Martin

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say goodbye...
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Christian Fenzl

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In my area, Upper Austria, the iOS app does not work for now about 2 years ("Location data not available") - I also have an ad-free subscription for WU, but even with that, WU support does not answer (no responses).

I deliver PWS data, and also advertised others to buy an own PWS, deliver data to WU and therefore collect forecasts back from WU ("give-and-take"). Changing your business model to "take-and-take" will change our mood  to "don't give-don't take". 
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U have to be kidding I just went through the expense of buying a complete weather station to use with my own smart home. I made sure what I purchased could hookup to weather underground spasificly.. I live over 10,000 ft in the mtns. That's all I need the api key for so after me willing to use my data and computer to let u have my info the least u can do is let me have a key. I'm not making money off it.
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I am an app developer - a week ago I decided to use weather underground and I subscribed and have spent the last week coding. Today I was ready to try it out and I discover this change. 

I wasn't told about this upcoming change when I got my key a week ago not was I told when the policy was changed.  This is really shortsighted by IBM and weather underground. 

IBM are you going to reimburse my lost week of development? If you behave like this now, no way will I want to invest more of my time and money in your product because I cannot trust you to be transparent about your intentions
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John Wade

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Don't feel bad I have 2 apps completely relying on Wunderground for the app and now they've screwed everyone..... 
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John P. Hoke

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So, I have provided free, rapid-fire updates of data to WUnderground for years (PWS: KPAALBRI11), in trade for access to MY data in the API. If IBMWunderground now wants to charge me to access MY data the only option I have is to stop providing it.
I hope that if this comes to pass, all PWS owners move in this direction. There are alternatives available to us (Meteotemplate, WeeWX, etc) to run a weather site, as well as other aggregators to use APIs against.

I guess IBM wants to kill off this business unit - its hard to sell data when your data providers stop providing it for free

I could see a model where you can access your data via the API "X" times a day free and pay for other data, but this is a suicidal business model

I wonder if the "Right to be Forgotten" in the GDPR would include the deletion of ALL data that my account has uploaded ... time to talk to my GDPR folks at work 
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Pierre Lannoy

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Hi John!
First it is privacy data: your data is strongly geolocalized and associated with your account.
Second, GDPR makes no difference on the data type, in case of enabling its erasing.
So, yes, GDPR fully applies. Just wait for 7 days ;)
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John P. Hoke

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Pierre Merci!

I got the same output from my GDPR folks... so I fully expect to request that all the data I provided over the years be purged and deleted once i finish writing my WeeWX based JSON files for my home automation system :)
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Pierre Lannoy

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If you want more fun, you can query WU to provide a full copy of your data (GDPR inside ;))...
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John P. Hoke

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You sir want the internets :)
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jrsa

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Is the pricing of the new Data Packages already available? If so, where can we find it?
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Jared Steckel

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I got a call from a rep - Core Data is $850/mo.
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jrsa

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Ok. Thank you! Do you know if there is an official pricing table with all the plans?
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moater11

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Hi there,

What will happen with the current paid plans. We are on Cumulus - Drizzle 150usd. When will these be migrated and what are similar alternatives in the new model.

More info please, as we need time to prepare and look for alternatives.

Thanks.
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Kairy Richard Ibrahim

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I've contributed my weather data to Wunderground for 18+ years and was worried something like this would happen after the change of ownership.  Reviewing their privacy policy concerning their website and web app and now learning of the changes in the API have helped me to decide that their is too much risk and too little benefit to doing business with Wunderground anymore and so I will cut my feed immediately.  With the proliferation of IoT there are now many cloud based and in house solutions available to allow the personal use of my weather data.
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Robert G. Heishman

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Why oh why do you keep messing with the services people rely on. It is just not how its been working and if you take away you will lose many who provide the services. I will shortly cut ties with wunderground all together if this stuff keeps happening.
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Ralph Williams

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Now that I've gone through the expense of buying all the stuff and now can't use it for what i wanted it for how do I get my imfo off the map. I can stop feeding my station imfo but can't figure out how to remove my site. I can't believe I went through all this for nothing. I'm wondering if everyone stopped sending imfo what they would do?
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joegr

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Well, I too would like to think that us not sending them weather data anymore would make them rethink things.  However, I think that the truth is that very few of the people sending them weather data use the API.  Are they really going to care if they lose less then 1% (even if they were some of the more accurate ones) of the weather stations reporting?
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James Anding

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No, obviously they don't and won’t care. However, the only tool I have is to not be a part of this outfit. I officially deleted my Weather Station from WU and stopped my uploading data to them. It’s a small thing but I actually feel better after doing it. At least I looked ahead a year ago and rewrote my weather site for Aeris Weather, so I wasn’t using WU for data. It was so unreliable anyway constantly giving bad data or no data week after week. Sadly no one at WU cared about that either.

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joegr

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Yes, I will stop sending data when my API key stops working.
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I am looking to generate dew point alerts on a local raspberry pi and am very sad to see there's no longer a public API. I might scrape the page, but I'll likely move to another service.