To improve our services and enhance the relationship with our users, we will no longer provide free weather API keys as part of our program. If you have been directed to download our Weather Underground free API key by a third party provider, please contact your vendor for resolution.
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I, along with many others have provided data at cost to me / us for many many years and now you're telling us you're just gonna bend us over and F&C* us up the arse?
Wow, what a completely shit thing to do, when after all, all we were doing was helping to make WUnderground the amazing place it used to be.
Are you just really trying to kill off your business model?
Well i do not wish you well in the future actually i hope you rot in hell!
I also will be removing my PWS when the API Key ceases working!
Thanks for nothing!
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if you are already on a paid api plan, what happens now?
Thanks
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"To improve our services and enhance the relationship with our users, we will no longer provide free weather API keys as part of our program."? What kind of idiotic statement is that. I had to laugh as it felt like an insult to my intelligence. See ya WU. You won't miss me and I won't you. Am spreading the word where I can.
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Hope this helps
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https://www.change.org/p/ibm-wunderground-about-to-shaft-longtime-weather-station-data-providers?recruiter=39077983&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
Head on over and add your Signature to the petition, if we get enough signatures this just might work!
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I think the petition could be improved by changing the wording to include everyone and to spell out that station members were providing that data with the expectation that other non-commercial use would always be allowed.
I also think it could improved by better spelling out the demand: Free non-commercial api access.
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To make a stand I suggest that we all stop uploading our data for 7 days (start on 1st July) as a protest and see if that has any inflluence on the decision.
I only found out about them withdrawing the free API as I came to look at my analytics which exceeded the daily limit and used up one of my raindrops. The cause - I ran a small script that says if the data you get from the forecast API is small in size because its crap, run it again until you get some decent data and it made 10 calls before it actually got a decent return.
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And this is improving service?
Somehow I think you have hung yourself
when we start to pull our data from your service your forcasts will be affected.
And Since I am in the EU I wish under GDPR law to have ALL my data you have on my website archived and sent to me. Then I request you DELETE everything associated with my account on WU.
Once you get a few thousand PWS sites doing this your name will be mud.
Well played WU, you really know how to piss people off.
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I have been having some very good email conversations with the people over at Aeries Weather / PWS. Firstly I must stress I am in no way affiliated with them, I am just a disgruntled WU API user.
I explained the situation we are seeing here and basically asked if there was any free API service they could offer us in return for us sending data to PWS. They are already working on linking PWS accounts to Aeries Weather Here are a few interesting quotes from our correspondence.
"Regarding
a limited API for non-commercials parties, our team is working on a plan to
support those who share PWS data with us. Linkages of PWS/Aeris accounts will
allow us to gain a better understanding of who is sending us PWS data and the
quality of it. It would be similar to WU’s offering at 10-15 calls/minute with
500-750 max calls/day. We are still working on detail specifics (like if AMP
data will be included or not) and I’ll be sure to keep you up to date with
progression(s). "
(AMP data that they mentioned is mapping, so radar, satellite etc.) but this is available in the developer kit.
"In
the mean time, feel free to sign up for a developer account. This will last
2-months, but as of now, you’re allowed to renew this Developer subscription
for continued usage."
"I spoke with the AerisWeather management team and we recognize and understand renewing every two months when individuals are contributing data is annoying. We are fine with you sharing information regarding AerisWeather working on a plan to remove the friction that exists today. It will be a few months of planning and development though, so we can’t promise an exact time just yet."
The Aeris 2-month developer subscription is to be used for internal testing and development purposes and provides 750 API calls per day with a max of 15 calls per minute.I have already signed up and am working on changing my calls.
They have said they will keep in touch and let me know how development is going so once I get any further information I will let it be known here .
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In my case I Just want to get MY own data from WU to integrate in with homebridge/HomeKit on my pi. Was all set up and was working on the last step to get the key and well.....
I have an Ambient Weather device. It looks like I can pull my data from their server I’ll just need to figure out what I need to do to write my own NPM. The api is free just need a key from them. My data is already pushed there.
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I have emailed them, sent feedback and online forms, yet have not had one reply. so I guess there is no support staff either.
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It is a sad state of affairs that a company owned by IBM has been destroyed within a year or so. I'm really loosing faith in WU.
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From a business perspective, the plugin developers will not be able to pay subscription for similar services, this is all open source and they do not earn money with this software / plugin. However there are thousands of users of this plugins who might be willing to pay a small fee per user to obtain a personal "user" API key. this might be as modest as 5-10 dollars per user per year however the numbers will add up... Too high fees will make the the community to switch to other services (global or local), however a modest price will be attractive to a sufficient number of users. These end-user api licenses could be restricted to reflect the needs of enduser and to account for a low load on servers, e.g. 6 calls per hour...
Overall I think this could be a win-win situation - Weather underground getting new sources of income while user of such open-source software can continue to use this service...
I hope the business department pick this up...
Happy to connect for example to the Squeezebox community if required.
Best,
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Well, if WU is too arrogant to listen to customers speeking up by themselves (even not investing in paid market research), then this is also a clear sign of wrong direction of the business....
Thanks James for your thoughts....
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WU you sure you want to lose public station data ?
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2018-11-07 04:42:11.242 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 04:52:11.623 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 08:42:21.697 Error: WUnderground: Invalid data received, or no data returned!
2018-11-07 11:42:34.431 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 11:52:34.802 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 12:02:35.427 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 12:12:35.896 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 12:22:36.265 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 12:32:36.646 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 13:42:44.642 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 13:52:45.022 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 14:12:45.927 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 14:22:46.263 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 15:12:48.653 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 15:32:49.536 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 15:42:50.168 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 15:52:50.512 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 16:12:51.579 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 17:22:54.452 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 18:13:01.635 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 18:23:02.003 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 21:03:13.950 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 21:13:14.297 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 21:23:14.626 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-07 23:53:21.438 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 00:03:21.960 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 00:13:22.340 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 00:23:22.709 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 00:33:23.238 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 02:23:28.238 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 02:43:29.060 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 02:53:29.427 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 03:03:29.814 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 03:13:30.196 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 03:23:30.563 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 04:23:33.588 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 04:33:33.961 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 04:43:34.327 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 05:23:36.150 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 05:33:36.605 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 05:43:36.962 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 05:53:37.320 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 06:03:37.678 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 06:13:38.039 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 07:33:41.743 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 07:43:42.183 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 07:53:42.561 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 11:23:51.811 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 11:33:52.180 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 11:53:53.029 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 12:03:53.387 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 14:13:58.920 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 14:33:59.675 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 14:44:00.064 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 15:24:02.149 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 15:34:02.542 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 15:44:02.921 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 16:04:03.870 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 18:34:10.289 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 18:54:11.022 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 19:24:12.667 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 19:44:13.445 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 19:54:18.822 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 20:04:19.345 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 20:14:19.878 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 20:24:20.234 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 20:44:21.196 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-08 22:14:25.768 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 00:24:31.747 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 05:24:44.626 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 05:34:45.080 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 05:44:45.449 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 05:54:45.815 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:04:46.187 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:14:46.567 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:24:47.193 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:34:47.572 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:44:47.941 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 06:54:48.304 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 07:54:51.282 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 09:24:55.349 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 09:34:55.727 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
2018-11-09 09:44:56.084 Error: WUnderground: Receiving old data from WU! (No new data return for more than 30 minutes)
Whereas it used to work just fine, with maybe one or two failures a week.It COULD be Domoticz, but I suspect it is the API or overload on your system(s).
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Data is being uploaded by Cumulus, and nothing has changed for months .. however the last few weeks/days upload failures have been frequent occurrences. Like I said 'flaky' (synonym: unreliable).
Yes, I changed the interval from 15 to 10 minutes. I shall also turn on debug logging my end, if I can figure out how.
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Keep me in the loop!
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i.e the wunderground server was too busy at the time (i.e not enough resources available)..an error log for the upload would help to know more
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https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=ISHROPSH25#history/tdata/s2018111...
You can see that the upload to PWSWeather for the same periods worked fine:
https://www.pwsweather.com/obs/SOUTHSHROPSHIRE.html
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2836.30441 : 17:10:00 Creating WXNow File
2836.30457 : 17:10:00 Updating Wunderground
2836.30457 : http://weatherstation.wunderground.com/weatherstation/updateweatherstation.php?ID=ISHROPSH25&PAS...
2836.30457 : 17:10:00 Updating PWS Weather
2836.30457 : http://www.pwsweather.com/pwsupdate/pwsupdate.php?ID=SOUTHSHROPSHIRE&PASSWORD=********&dateu...
2836.30847 : PWS update done
2836.30847 : 17:10:00 PWS Response Code: 200 Response = <html>
<head>
<title>PWS Weather Station Update</title>
</head>
<body>
Data Logged and posted in METAR mirror.
</body>
</html>
2836.30862 : 17:10:00 WU Response Code: 200 Response = success
The PWSweather data got there and can be displayed. The WU data is in the bit bucket somewhere.
I am turning logging off again, since it fills up my disk quite quickly and I doubt it'll tell us anything new.
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--Victoria
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I normally have people who have received the api weather key
me personally yes I have a key of API weather
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