Weather Underground API update

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Hi there from the Weather Underground API Transition Team.
 
We’d like to reiterate a few things and let you know of a few small timing changes as we move closer to the previously announced retirement of the Weather Underground API:
 
  • Based on the response to the previous announcement as we neared year end, we have extended the retirement date to February 15, 2019 to allow you more transition time.
  • All Weather Underground API keys will stop working on February 15, 2019 unless otherwise agreed upon with Weather Underground.
  • All credit card charges for existing Weather Underground API subscriptions will stop on December 26, 2018.
 
Personal Weather Station (PWS) owners/contributors will continue to be eligible for a free replacement API service selected from our standard IBM/Weather Company standard offerings that contain:
 
  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute
 
You can check out our PWS contributor replacement API documentation here.
 
If you need higher call volumes, you can still sign up for a paid API subscription plan from The Weather Company.  Prices begin at $200/month. To have a representative contact you or to request a demo, please click to fill out the contact form.
 
Finally, we are humbled by the loyalty you’ve shown us during this difficult transition period.  Thank you for your continued support of the Weather Underground community.
 
With gratitude,
The WU API Transition Team
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Posted 3 weeks ago

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And when will this replacement PWS API be available?
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William J Schmidt

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Ditto.  Nothing has happened yet.
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Hi,

thanks for the update.

I do not have a PWS but am thinking of getting one. Will it be possible to get the same terms as people who already have a PWS or not?
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Yes.  The new API, when it is available, will be available to everyone who is uploading data from their PWS. 

I do not know exactly when new keys will be available yet.

Victoria Gardner
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I am not (as of a few hours ago) getting any information such as 10 Day, 3 Day, or hourly forecast using my old API.  Please tell me they have not cut the old APIs off without rollingout the new ones.
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And its working again.  Whew.
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If it happens again, email me and let me check. 

Victoria
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Thank you very much for all your work.  I realize that you have a difficult task.
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Nothing you experience should be related to any planned outages, so do feel free to contact me directly if there seems to be a problem.

--Victoria
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I realize the intent is to limit the amount of information that is given away for free, but I would cordially request that a 10 day forecast be included instead of the 5 day, as 10 day is the expected normal for a look ahead forecast.  Not trying to be greedy, but offering a compromise that would be beneficial to everyone.  
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Hi, I’m also a long time PWS contributer and API key personal user, but haven’t been contacted about transitioning to the new key and API yet andI don’t want to be left out of the transition. My current station is KTXPASAD21 and my WU account’s email is up to date too. Thanks.
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Hi Wayne.

If you want to transition to a paid data subscription, you should investigate the options and fill out the form on this page:  http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html.

The post you're commenting on is the most up-to-date information on the transition to the API for PWS owner/uploaders.  

If you would like to get added to my email list for PWS owners, email me your PWS id, and your API key, and I will send you information as it becomes available.  But it will fundamentally be the same information found on this Forum.

Victoria Gardner
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So it went just how i afraided, no hourly forecast available anymore? That was the only feature i really needed back from WU..
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This was posted a few days ago. This is what you will have.

  • Current observations from the PWS network
  • 5 day daily forecast
  • PWS historical data
  • PWS lookup by geocode, zip code and location
  • Call volume: 1500/day, 30/minute

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Yes, so basically nothing that worths rewriting the whole code for my weather stations and home automation :(
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Tom Johnson

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An additional restriction that is less than obvious is no XML.  JSON only.
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Obviously IBM was not interested in finding out what our use cases were and instead are going to just try to shove something down our throat and expect us to like it.  Getting json is worthless to me and will break a lot of stuff unless I re-engineer it.
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Hello. The program on Android Weather Underground will also transmit a forecast for 10 days or only for 5 days?
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Igor, I don't understand.  The Weather Underground web pages will continue to display 10-day forecasts.  The API is separate from the web and mobile pages/apps.

Victoria Gardner
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Victoria, I am the owner of PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IPECHORY2&cm_ven=localwx_pwsd... . The message indicates that the weather forecast for weather station owners will now be available only for 5 days. In this connection, the question arose on displaying the weather forecast for 10 days.


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The new API for PWS owners will only provide 5-day forecasts without cost.  10-day forecasts are available on the paid API through The Weather Company. 

The web pages that you can see on the Weather Underground PWS pages will continue to display the 10-day forecasts.

Does that answer the question?  The "program on Android" is what was confusing me.

-Victoria
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Yes, thank you!
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where is this new API on your site ?
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The new API is not yet open for use.

--Victoria
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thank victoria but when will this API be available? 
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Not yet known, Chepioq.

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It is nice to see that slowly there is information available for the new API. 
However I still can not see anything about the non-PWS owner low call volume option.
Is there still something like this planned or has that option being abandoned?
My suspicion is that we "free leechers" are being terminated. Afterall a business is there to make money, right?
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As of this moment, we do not anticipate offering free access to the replacement API for anyone except PWS owner/uploaders.  

The Weather Company offers limited-time-length trial keys for their paid subscriptions.  For more information, see http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

We again thank everyone who has been part of using Weather Underground as the old API comes to an end, and wish everyone the best in their future endeavors.

Victoria Gardner
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The end of service email stated:
For developers who use WU API data for non-commercial purposes, you will have access to a new plan for a personal use, low call volume API. Stay tuned for more details as we build this out.

Where is that information?
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Kevin we are all waiting for that info. It's hnot yet available
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As of this moment, we do not anticipate offering free access to the replacement API for anyone except PWS owner/uploaders.  

The Weather Company offers limited-time-length trial keys for their paid subscriptions.  For more information, see http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html

We again thank everyone who has been part of using Weather Underground as the old API comes to an end, and wish everyone the best in their future endeavors.

Victoria Gardner
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Hi Victoria

Please forward my displeasure to the relevant person.

It is extremely disappointing that the low volume non-commercial API usage will be withdrawn completely. My requirements are to use less than 10 calls a day for 6 months of the year, so as you can expect I can not justify $200/month on a project that is non profit, diverting funds away from other places. However its not like we weren't prepared to pay something or even asked to - were happy to contribute but not to the extent requested.

The first email failing to be received by seemingly anyone was unfortunate. The announcement at the time stating there will be plans for users exactly like myself, a muck-up. The lack of an email on the update, shows a lack of care.
 
On the up side, less than 6 weeks until your job goes back to normal levels of support requests - hope they don't turn their back on you too.

I will make other arrangements for data unless someone reaches out to me via email.

James
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I'm surprised the Weather Company, owned by IBM, is citing their inability to scale their infrastructure as their reason for closing.down the open API.  I would  have thought their cloud solutions marketing team would love to tell the Underground API story.  It's good for business from both a technical and altruistic standpoint.  I work part-time in charitable software product development and we provide weather and other services to the elderly at no cost.  Professionally, I manage a large IBM infrastructure department.  I'm disappointed in IBM!
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Apparently, someone decided developers shouldn't have API access anymore. New products start with the developers. If developers aren't familiar with the API it won't be suggested for new products.

The PWS owners are the source of all the data. However, they will only get 5 day forecast instead of the previous 10 day. There's no hourly forecast. Is this the way people are being thanked for all the PWS data?

As already mentioned, there are plenty of other companies that offer the data for low usage experimentation and development. In particular darksky.net offers 7 day forecast both daily and hourly in a json format. It took very little time to convert my programs and customers to that web site.

When I worked for IBM, people would have been fired if they suggested retiring an existing API before the new API was available and tested.
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I think they are also targeting phones with pressure and temperature sensors.

Qn.
On darksky can one upload their PWS data? Do you know?
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No, they can not.  But there are many alternatives.
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Kevin

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If you have a PWS an alternative is openweathermap.org.

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Well if you like programming OW is (API required to post data in JSON format).

Much easier AWEKAS, CWOP, PWSweather, Weathercloud or staying at WU.
(No API required at any of the services in the line above to post data)

Currently you can still manually download data from your station on WU w/o an api. If you don't collect it by another method.

I can not speak to the future of that feature.  Perhaps Victoria Gardner knows.
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Thanks for the response.
Just out of curiosity - are there other websites that would take data that have an API?
I do not have my PWS yet but looking for places where I can share it.
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Not that I am aware of.
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Just an info, actual weather station that send data to WU, will continue to work?
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Nicolo, if you mean PWS uploading to WU, yes, that will continue to work.

Victoria Gardner
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No.  There will be no access to XML calls in the new PWS API.

Victoria Gardner
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openweathermap.org supports both json and XML and also personal weather stations

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The problem is that I've an Aercus PWS that send data only to WU. I'm looking to buy a Davis PWS and say goodbye to WU.
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Don't forget the Ambient Weather Weatherbridge (look for it on Amazon) that takes data from any weather station and uploads it to a whole host of weather data providers.  You are not stuck with one provider with this device.
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Discontinued...HOWEVER...those units were actually meteobridge devices, and if you can follow directions, you can make your own for a $30 hardware investment and a 65 Euro software investment (currently $74.50) and a 1 hr time investment (10 minutes of work and 50 minutes figuring out what to do).

 https://wiki.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Home

Edit:  It is shown as discontinued on Ambient's site, but it is still offered on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Ambient-Weather-WEATHERBRIDGE-Universal-Compatible/dp/B00FPPYM7M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547240107&sr=8-1&keywords=WEATHERBRIDGE


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Or you could buy a https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wireless-Portable-Router-TL-MR3020/dp/B00634PLTW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&a...
and flash your own for much lower cost following simple flashing from meteobridge.com

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But, my PWS isnt supported (WS-1001 clone).
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From your earlier post "Based on the response to the previous announcement as we neared year end, we have extended the retirement date to February 15, 2019 to allow you more transition time."

In order to begin our transition we need access to PWS contributor replacement API.  Every day without access is shortening our transition time.

Any idea when we can gain access to begin testing and transitioning?
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I looked at all available data for this new api key transition but cannot find how to get the new api key. Sort of useless messages back and forth saying the same thing over and over. I run a local weather site https://www.nicomaparkwx.com that relies a great deal on my WU feeds and access to my WU api to also retrieve data Ive sent. I see a major re-write to alot of my php and json scripts but can do nothing without the new api key to start the re-write. I see the old fields 14 of them now changed to 27 and a major headache. I only plan on using the free 1500 calls a day which is an improvement over the 500 and 6 min calls.

I have been waiting since Nov of 2017 for info on this changeover and seems everyone daily is asking the same with the same We will let you know when we get more info Its getting old and boring. Feb 15 is a month away and and not alot of time left for us to do the major re-writes to our software..The owner of meteotemplate.com needs to know soon to be able to re-write his software also.

Again... we are asking when will we get a more solid answer. Time is running out.

Andy out...
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Same for me, my site http://www.meteomarianocomense.com is based on WU feeds and I need infos to rewrite my code.
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Nice site you have and we are in the same boat so to speak. You need to turn on the ability to change language and imperial settings in your upper right corner. I don't remember where that setting is but guessing in the main config file.

Your site is formatted perfectly in mobile view also.
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Hi Andy.
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Hello Tom
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Our weather site uses a paid WU API key. As soon as we saw the EOS message about 4 months ago, we tried writing to WU support, filling the form at http://biz.weather.com/WU-Data-API_Data-Package-Demo-Request.html and got no response so far. 4 months of silence. It seems that the only source of information about the situation is here in this community. Now it looks like our key will continue to work till Feb 15. No official statements besides the EOS announcement (that has no useful information), no feedback, and a "demo request" form that's not working. Way to go IBM.
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Meteobar, contact me directly.  I can at least get someone to be in touch with you.

Victoria Gardner
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It wont let me fill out the form since I have no revenue or employee size of 1.

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Andy, if you want someone to contact you about paid subscriptions, drop me an email and I will make it happen.

Victoria Gardner
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I do not plan on a paid subscription as I don't generate revenue. I run a free site and no paid ads. Free as in Free. I have been feeding WU for nearly 11 years. Does that count for a free 1500 api key?
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Then I don't understand.  What contact are you desiring, then?  The gateway for the PWS uploaders isn't ready yet; I have not been responding to those notes because I don't have any new information.  I hope for news every day, but I know no one wants to hear that.

Am I missing something?  I genuinely want to help.  

Victoria
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Yes Andy you get a key.

Valid for the nine pieces of data listed in the documentation, and in JSON format only.

You won't be happy.

Tom

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I know you are Victoria. Just letting off steam as time is running short for some of us to re-write our scripts and trouble shoot. without taking our sites down during the transition.

Question. Will the WU site also be changing in any form also on the 15th of Feb or remain WU as is?
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I'm not part of the web site team, so I don't have access to that information.  However, as someone who has worked on the web for decades, any web site that is not undergoing development is in the process of dying.  And since I know there are people working on it, I would have to say that it will change, although whether or not those changes will be noticeable to users is another matter altogether.

Didn't mean that to be a non-answer answer, but there it is.

--Victoria
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Understood.
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From Windy.com, 21 January 2019: https://community.windy.com/topic/7551/would-you-like-to-report-your-weather-station-data-to-windy/1
@ivo said:
Would you like to report your weather station data to Windy?
Are you owner of personal weather station? Are you maintainer of network of weather stations?
We plan to create API endpoints so you could send your weather station data to us. Please help us to do this project by answering following questions:
1) What type of weather station you have
2) Do you report your data to some other Internet website?
3) How technically do you send your reports to this other website. Which software or protocol do you use.
4) Do you have any tips and ideas, how should our reporting API look like?
5) Would you be willing to offer your station data to anyone else (not only windy.com) as open data?
Please provide some feedback over on their forum using the above link.